Father and son build, need help

[Poboy kartman]

Ok...then I will tell you how to make it work. Post the pics.

 

[45pro]

Ok, after getting home I think I see what they did. It does seem to have a standard mount too, maybe just grind off the old column they welded to it and I'll be g2g??

 

[Poboy kartman]

Yep. .

 

[tinamcjittles]

Looks like the 3 hole steering wheel mount is about a foot down for some reason lol.. You could just cut off the outdated (grooved) part. Then grind the nasty welds off that 3-hole mount and put it at the top where it should be... why is that mount down there??

Edit: Actually it does look extended as mckutzy said.. there must have been a good reason though, if not you could just chop off the crap that was added.

 

[mckutzy]

I'm guessing it was extended...

 

[kenworth85]

looks like an old steering shaft off an old chev, if you cut it off, grind it down it would give more room for the engine. move the seat forward. according to the pics he needs closer to the pedals anyway.

 

[45pro]

Really wish I had a legit grinder, but with enough time with my trusty dremel we got it ground down and ready for a new wheel to be mounted.

 

[45pro]

looks like an old steering shaft off an old chev, if you cut it off, grind it down it would give more room for the engine. move the seat forward. according to the pics he needs closer to the pedals anyway.

Exactly what I was thinkin!

 

[Denny]

Just to be on the safe side do me a favor and take a hammer and try to tap the 3 hole plate off the shaft. Some shaft and plates like that were just a press and weld fit and some had splines and a nut in the center to hold the 3 bolt plate to the shaft. Safety first!



Denny

 

[chancer]

I like the dremel! well I like the, "Make him do it" even better.

There are a couple cheap Grinders at Harbor Freight. 10, 15, 20 bucks.
I do not know (Poboy Does) but one of them is a great tool believe it or not.
Also "Machinist@large" likes his he has 2 or 3. Uses them at work!

 

[Poboy kartman]

Yeah...the Chicago Electric one...the Drillmaster is cheaper..but most Drillmaster stuff is crap.

 

[Hellion]

looks like an old steering shaft off an old chev...

It is. It's a Corvair wheel according to the graphic on the horn button. Might be worth something (it most certainly is).

Looks like the 3 hole steering wheel mount is about a foot down for some reason lol.. You could just cut off the outdated (grooved) part. Then grind the nasty welds off that 3-hole mount and put it at the top where it should be... why is that mount down there??

Edit: Actually it does look extended as mckutzy said.. there must have been a good reason though, if not you could just chop off the crap that was added.

I thought the 3 hole mount was added as a "thrust washer" for the large car steering wheel but it appears it is the original wheel mount "boss". The whole splined-shaft section was added to accommodate the car wheel. I bet the car wheel made the steering effort extra light and easy.

But this is all obvious now anyway.

Great efforts at work here and the Dremel work looks first-rate!

I like that Zerk fitting on the steering column brace.

 

[45pro]

It is. It's a Corvair wheel according to the graphic on the horn button. Might be worth something (it most certainly is).



I thought the 3 hole mount was added as a "thrust washer" for the large car steering wheel but it appears it is the original wheel mount "boss". The whole splined-shaft section was added to accommodate the car wheel. I bet the car wheel made the steering effort extra light and easy.

But this is all obvious now anyway.

Great efforts at work here and the Dremel work looks first-rate!

I like that Zerk fitting on the steering column brace.

Thanks man, I'm pretty good with tools and am all self taught. I'm also a perfectionist at times so if I'm doing something I like it to be 100% correct

 

[chancer]

That Corvair wheel may be "Unsafe at any Speed"

 

[45pro]

Got some goodies in guys! New steering wheel is installed and a pic of the other things that came in saturday. Everything looks good, just gotta pick up some bolts to mount the sprocket to the hub and for some reason the bolt and washer they sent to hold the cc on isn't long enough to reach the threads which I thought was odd. I got a busy day ahead of me but am hoping to at least pick up the bolts and material I need to weld the mount plate and start getting an idea of where my motor and flywheel is going to be.

 

[chancer]

Check out this Video from Kartfab on installing the engine mount plate. It is for a dead axle kart but the concept remains the same getting the sprockets lined up and then tacking on the mounting plate.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66mZYlWIinA

Alos check out the How to step by step with words and pictures here:
http://kartfab.com/go-kart-plans/go-kart-engine-mount

These are great, you can have your son watch them and then He and you are both experts and can do this together.

 

[45pro]

Thanks man, I'll check it out.

 

[Hellion]

I see this is a very intriguing kart now after deeply scrutinizing all your photos. I've never seen a more substantial brake pedal on a simple, rigid frame kart (I'm sure the shock suspension buggies have them but I have no interest in those).

I'd be inclined to do a similar gas pedal, like an automotive type with a treaded rubber face, just to keep with the theme.

It is puzzling that there's no evidence of an engine ever being mounted to it.

 

[chancer]

It is puzzling that there's no evidence of an engine ever being mounted to it.

I think we determined early on in this thread that it had been a Downhill "Gravity racer" in its orginal life. That explains the Brakes only and the fancy braking system.

 

[45pro]

What would you guys suggest I use for my crossmembers to mount my mount plate on? I just returned from lowes and they only have square tube steel. The kart is made of 7/8" round tube steel? Would it be a problem to use 1" square tube steel? Maybe I can source 7/8" round somewhere else?