Whitetrashrocker
Inmate #952016
Your on the wrong site for boobs.
If you didn't know already...
B oo b
Top view, front view, side view.
A Dingos Tale part 2
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If you didn't know already...
B oo b
Top view, front view, side view.
Master Hack
Well-known member
You said 38's! Got my attention!
Don't throw stuff out and not deliver!
Don't throw stuff out and not deliver!
Whitetrashrocker
Inmate #952016
Bushings? Never heard of em.Yup, it looks like your king pin bushings are "gone"
Probably need something like these (~$0.50 ea.)
https://www.bmikarts.com/Nylon-Bushing--58-ID-_p_1343.html
While your at it, check to see "if" the king pin "barrel" got damaged, while "running" without bushings
...also, maybe check to see "how loose" your tie rod ends too
...then, add some lubrication to ALL of them "joints"
The C has oval holes and the pin bolts have rings wore in them. They are beyond repair.
I think you missed the sarcasm.
This front end is gonna get cut off and replaced with some A arms and shocks. Kinda the whole point of this "not a build" thread.
Denny
Canned Monster
To quote that magical word smith Buggs Bunny “Mmmm, Could Be?!”.
Whitetrashrocker
Inmate #952016
Lo barato sale caro.
The donor brake set up never really worked well. We'll not at all. Even after I took em all apart and cleaned out the crud and corrosion. Ended up buying a complete pre-bled system. Bolted right on. I only had to shorten the threaded push rod and shorten the reservoir hose.
Since i dont have steering, perhaps i should have brakes. Right bobO?
And here's my solution for a chain tensioner.
The donor brake set up never really worked well. We'll not at all. Even after I took em all apart and cleaned out the crud and corrosion. Ended up buying a complete pre-bled system. Bolted right on. I only had to shorten the threaded push rod and shorten the reservoir hose.
Since i dont have steering, perhaps i should have brakes. Right bobO?
And here's my solution for a chain tensioner.
Denny
Canned Monster
Brakes are kind of handy, if you don’t have steering.
Whitetrashrocker
Inmate #952016
What's that meme?
You picked the wrong time to leave me loose wheel.
Lol.
I was going full bore clockerwise and the end came round. Ate the dust cloud i was trying to out run.
Been meaning to pick up a nylon nut.
You picked the wrong time to leave me loose wheel.
Lol.
I was going full bore clockerwise and the end came round. Ate the dust cloud i was trying to out run.
Been meaning to pick up a nylon nut.
Whitetrashrocker
Inmate #952016
What happened to the edit option button.
I was going anticlockerwise.
Festus joke.
I was going anticlockerwise.
Festus joke.
Whitetrashrocker
Inmate #952016
Whitetrashrocker
Inmate #952016
Am I gonna hurt some feelings cutting up my dingo? Don't watch then.
Gonna go something like this I think.
Gonna go something like this I think.
Whitetrashrocker
Inmate #952016
Denny
Canned Monster
It seems your Ackerman is backwards.
Rat
Well-known member
There really is no hard fast rule as to whether the tie rods should be ahead of or following the spindle... I do know the difference plays a part in the caster angle as well as one tends to be more sensetive to input.
AFAIK the only reason the Ackerman is traditionally ahead of the spindle on karts is for pedal clearance, and to give it a little bit of protection from head on impact damage.
I think we all know orintation is fairly irrelevant, something (or some things) is getting bent or broken when you bounce a gopher hole racing across a field, or clip a tree on a trail going into a corner too hot.
Denny
Canned Monster
Whitetrashrocker
Inmate #952016
I saw that too. The donor had proper geometry, the dingo had it too. But when I put them together it doesn't.
Not quite sure how to fix it. Maybe making the rod ends on the steering column have their own mount instead of sharing the bolt.
Perhaps it doesn't even matter for the terrain I'm on.
Denny
Canned Monster
Make a triangular shaped pitman arm for the steering shaft and then cross the tie rod ends.
Whitetrashrocker
Inmate #952016
Found some waterpipe and made a couple hoops.
Remade a few tabs to fit better on the a-arms, and a set for the top shock mounts.
I think this is going to work. I got the a-arms tacked in and just need to notch the hoops and tack them in. Then I can see if it stands on its own and what the spring rate feels like.
Feet for scale.
Pulled this nose guard off the donor quad. What do ya think? I might add it for some cross bracing and looks.
Remade a few tabs to fit better on the a-arms, and a set for the top shock mounts.
I think this is going to work. I got the a-arms tacked in and just need to notch the hoops and tack them in. Then I can see if it stands on its own and what the spring rate feels like.
Feet for scale.
Pulled this nose guard off the donor quad. What do ya think? I might add it for some cross bracing and looks.
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Whitetrashrocker
Inmate #952016
Standing on its own.
Everything is just tacked for now. Don't want to burn all that wire and then have to change it. Now the throttle and brake rod are going to have to get modified.
Everything is just tacked for now. Don't want to burn all that wire and then have to change it. Now the throttle and brake rod are going to have to get modified.
Whitetrashrocker
Inmate #952016
I'm gonna stand up and fly my FAIL flag proudly.
Here is a "looks good from here" vid.
Here is a "looks good from here" vid.
Whitetrashrocker
Inmate #952016
As any normal person would do, I measured and welded my tabs square to the frame and symmetrical to each other.
Got it put back together to "give 'er a spin round the track, she how she feels"
It had so much caster I couldn't turn. The geometry made it where I was lifting the weight of the kart with the castor. And the camber was also too much and only got worse with flex.
Out came the grinder and chopped off the tabs.
Try again.
OK I'm gonna pay real close attention to the king pin this time.
Left side welded back in place. Kingpin set at a much better angle 3° vs the 10° castor and as close to 0 as I could with the camber.
Right side fell in real close to the other side. But some things amiss! Hmm
See if you can spot it.
The pic angle isn't the best.
The front tab is the same on both sides. The angle is not the same for the arm pivot and the shock tab is considerably different.
But all the point to point measurements are the same.... Just not in a 3D world.
I was scratching my head over this. Measure. Stand back and look.
Measure some more. WTF!
Took the arms and set them next to each other on a flat surface. Hmm. Ones bent.
Bent in such a way I couldn't tell by just holding them. But enough to cause bad alignment.
Well here I am again but this time I'm going double a-arm.
No more camber issues with suspension flex.
And of course tires....
None of the spindle or hubs or tires will cross fit.
Gonna have to get bigger rears so it don't look funny. The left one was the stock manco. Middle was the single arm quad.
Got it put back together to "give 'er a spin round the track, she how she feels"
It had so much caster I couldn't turn. The geometry made it where I was lifting the weight of the kart with the castor. And the camber was also too much and only got worse with flex.
Out came the grinder and chopped off the tabs.
Try again.
OK I'm gonna pay real close attention to the king pin this time.
Left side welded back in place. Kingpin set at a much better angle 3° vs the 10° castor and as close to 0 as I could with the camber.
Right side fell in real close to the other side. But some things amiss! Hmm
See if you can spot it.
The pic angle isn't the best.
The front tab is the same on both sides. The angle is not the same for the arm pivot and the shock tab is considerably different.
But all the point to point measurements are the same.... Just not in a 3D world.
I was scratching my head over this. Measure. Stand back and look.
Measure some more. WTF!
Took the arms and set them next to each other on a flat surface. Hmm. Ones bent.
Bent in such a way I couldn't tell by just holding them. But enough to cause bad alignment.
Well here I am again but this time I'm going double a-arm.
No more camber issues with suspension flex.
And of course tires....
None of the spindle or hubs or tires will cross fit.
Gonna have to get bigger rears so it don't look funny. The left one was the stock manco. Middle was the single arm quad.