T-man's kart's

[gokart14]

hey tman looking at my kart if i do put the spindles backward the tie rods will come right in front of the pedals... i just dont kow how i would be able to make it work... do you have any suggestions to keep the tie rods out of the way????

if you look at the 3 pic up at the top you might be able to see what happens if i put the spindles backwards .....and the frame is just long enough so i cant move pedals...... but i know how important this is to fix the front suspension

 

[T-man]

bluethunder , that is alot , at first I didn't know what you were talking about.

gokart14 I hope you can make sense of this. I did it with MS Paint.
It would involve putting in a uv joint, angle iron and a few other pieces.

 

[T-man]

woow those didn't come out very good.

 

[bighead]

maybe like this. With a bell crank pitman arm. Just shooting ideas is all. This would fix you up I think. I did not read all this thread about your kart. But by looking if you want to flip the spindles. The steering shaft needs to be changed.

You could fab a mount off your frame. Then run your steering shaft to that mount. Then make the bell crank pitman arm off your shaft.

Or just build it like your were. But put a swivel in your steering shaft to change the angle of the wheel to fit you just right.

 

[T-man]

oh ya thats an Idea also, there are alot of ways to do it.
big do you know of any places that I could get any uv joints that are not tapered or splined , something that I could just slide in a rod and weld ?

 

[gokart14]

ya that would work but arnt UV joints exspensive

but Basically your idea is to put the tie rods under the frame

 

[T-man]

no, no, dont put them under the kart make them go over.

 

[gokart14]

i understand what you are saying about the UV joints and making the steering systeme work, but no matter what i do the tie rods are going to be in front of the pedals

sooryyy if i am looking at your pics wrong but thats what it looks like to me tell me if this pic make sense

the red is showing the tie rods

 

[fowler]

wait bear with me as i dont think i picked up all the info in the other posts

are u haveing bump steer issues

if so there is only a few problews with the current setup

if u straighten the tie rods and move them to aline with the suspension pivots them u are all good

i didnt read where u are riding but single a arm wont be alot of good on bituman

 

[gokart14]

wait bear with me as i dont think i picked up all the info in the other posts

are u haveing bump steer issues

if so there is only a few problews with the current setup

if u straighten the tie rods and move them to aline with the suspension pivots them u are all good

i didnt read where u are riding but single a arm wont be alot of good on bituman

Actullay i am dealing with toe out and i need toe in to help the a arm push back up to straighten the kart.. because right know the suspension is just compressing but wont go back up.

 

[gokart14]

no, no, dont put them under the kart make them go over.

after looking at the pics you drew i think it makes a little more sense.... are you saying i should put it back enought to were my feet go over the tie rods??? but put them low enough to the frame so they dont hit my legs..... i think this makes sense now.......

one problem is i dont now anything about the uv joints

 

[bighead]

Tie rods in front of the pedals is fine. Look at my Dingo

 

[fowler]

to get better compression u can move the shock joint on the a arm out a bit

also tie rods in front of the pedals will work fine but think about where your feet will go

 

[T-man]

gokart14 Have you made a decision on what your going to do?

fowler,bighead I think he wants to utilise his bump steer to angle his tires inwards to help bring the kart up. He had them set up going forward and the bump steer would just cause the the tires to keep spreading never alowing the shocks to bring the kart up until he would steer L or R.

 

[fowler]

ok sure

but there was few problems with the system that he had

 

[T-man]

ya, but thats ok . I think he is going to be adjusting with the shocks first. #1 i seems to be the easyest. #2 We all told him to do that first.

 

[fowler]

ok i dont get it
thats my fault though

ill just sit back and watch
ill ad advice where i can when i can

 

[gokart14]

well i am still thinking what i am going to do??? but right now i am finishing the back end of the kart, but i had one idea to what to..... do this pic explains what i was

The red is where the new tie rods will be

the red is also the steering wheel

the blue is the original pitman are and the black is my idea of somehow extending it ????

 

[T-man]

looks good

 

[bighead]

well i am still thinking what i am going to do??? but right now i am finishing the back end of the kart, but i had one idea to what to..... do this pic explains what i was

The red is where the new tie rods will be

the red is also the steering wheel

the blue is the original pitman are and the black is my idea of somehow extending it ????

How long is that pitman arm going to be? Can you change the steering shaft angle to shorten it up some? That why I said you might be able to use a swivel to change the angle.