Slow Pocket Bike, only going 5km/h :(

[SpyGuy]

You need a gear-puller, preferably a three-jaw. You can pick 'em up at your local auto-parts store.

I just disassemble the entire clutch all the way down to the backing plate, and then pull the plate off with the gear-puller. Learned that the hard way after shattering a clutch .....

 

[Joshmcmillan]

Why do I need a puller? Couldn't I just undo the bolt, then pull off the clutch?? I don't have a puller and I'd prefer not to have to buy one Is there any other way?

 

[SpyGuy]

Well, more likely than not, that clutch is on there pretty tight. You may be able to lever it off with a big screwdriver or two, if you keep working around the edge, but it'll take a while. Don't think that it's gonna just fall off in your hand once you take that bolt out - you're gonna be working at that for a bit! Besides, if you need to pull the flywheel off at some point in the future, you'll need a puller for that, too.

 

[Joshmcmillan]

I just can't get it off. I guess I'll start selling it off as parts. I hope to get at least half of my money back selling 2 wheels with tires, 1 wheel, front forks, 2 disc brake sets, 2 brake cables, throttle cable, carby, frame, twist throttle, brake leaver etc...

 

[bigfootrules31]

you cant take a clutch off so your going to sell it, sounds a bit stupid, pullers arent verry expensive and youl have it for a long time if your interested in engines

 

[Joshmcmillan]

It's not just the puller. The Clutch bolt is completely seized or something.

 

[Phatvortex]

You need to use a breaker bar or something, it'll be on REALLY tight.

Trust me, I work mainly on bike engines, and there have been times in the past it's taken 5 of us and a breaker bar to get a clutch bolt off.

 

[Kenny_McCormic]

IMPACT GUN, for loosening only!

 

[jr dragster T]

A pneumatic impact gun would work great!

 

[Kenny_McCormic]

I like the electric ones.

 

[bigfootrules31]

could it be lock tighted on?

 

[BradenM]

20nm of force will break the bonding strength of **most** types of loctite. A human can apply this kind of force constantly and would be able to break this bond. Loctite is not the issue here, or at least of no concern.

 

[Phatvortex]

Impact gun is good, but this guy has stated he has sh*t all money several times, so it's bone advice guys. As I said before, breaker bar + elbow grease!

 

[SpyGuy]

^^^-- What he said. Don't forget to jam the flywheel with a screwdriver, or all your effort will just be going around and around ....

To be totally, brutally blunt, parting out the bike just because you can't remove a single bolt is about the stupidest thing I've ever heard of. So you're going to just give up and let the bike win. What's next? "Oh, my car won't start because I haven't put gas in it - I guess I'll sell it." Oh, I'm going to sell my house because I broke the key off in the door." That kind of thinking would get you laughed off any track out there, especially considering that your bike is almost brand-new! I mean, how stupid would you feel if you sold the bike to one of your mates, and about half an hour later, he came riding back on it? "Hey, thanks for the bike, Josh. If you decide to sell anything else real cheap because you can't fix it, let me know."

Ultimately, it's your ike, and your call. If you want to sell it at a loss instead of trying to fix it, none of us can stop you from doing so. Me, I think you would be making a BIG mistake selling it, but that's only one person's opinion. Do what you gotta do ... just make sure you're okay with the results afterwards.

 

[Joshmcmillan]

^^^-- What he said. Don't forget to jam the flywheel with a screwdriver, or all your effort will just be going around and around ....

To be totally, brutally blunt, parting out the bike just because you can't remove a single bolt is about the stupidest thing I've ever heard of. So you're going to just give up and let the bike win. What's next? "Oh, my car won't start because I haven't put gas in it - I guess I'll sell it." Oh, I'm going to sell my house because I broke the key off in the door." That kind of thinking would get you laughed off any track out there, especially considering that your bike is almost brand-new! I mean, how stupid would you feel if you sold the bike to one of your mates, and about half an hour later, he came riding back on it? "Hey, thanks for the bike, Josh. If you decide to sell anything else real cheap because you can't fix it, let me know."

Ultimately, it's your ike, and your call. If you want to sell it at a loss instead of trying to fix it, none of us can stop you from doing so. Me, I think you would be making a BIG mistake selling it, but that's only one person's opinion. Do what you gotta do ... just make sure you're okay with the results afterwards.

I have no impact gun, I don't know anyone with one. I have no clutch puller, I don't know anyone with one. If I decided to go and pay a mechanic $50 to do it for me, even though I'm not certain it's the clutch that is the problem, it could just be more money down the drain. So unless there is an alternative, I'm to scared to just keep spending more and more money on it. It's definitely not almost brand new, I bought it used from a dishonest person who said it worked properly. The 2 comparisons you made are just a complete insult as they are nothing like this.

 

[bigfootrules31]

i bought my xl 75 for $100 but the rear wheel is ruined and will cost more than i paid for the bike for a new'n. im not going to go back to the guy i bought it off an ask for my moneys back

 

[Joshmcmillan]

i bought my xl 75 for $100 but the rear wheel is ruined and will cost more than i paid for the bike for a new'n. im not going to go back to the guy i bought it off an ask for my moneys back

If you bought a pocket rocket for over $200 and was told it worked perfectly and had no problem, then when you got it, it barely moved, can you say you wouldn't ask for a refund? Maybe some people just don't value money as much as others. I don't see why I'm getting insulted etc.. for being upset about being done over?

 

[BradenM]

Dude you got screwed over, and shouldn't (although that wasn't his intention) be insulted. You have done a fantastic diagnostic job thus far, and it would be a shame to give up now. For the price of 1 clutch, you can either can the whole project and part it out, get all your money back, or perhaps get a new clutch on. If still fail, then part it out. Either way, we as a community will (I feel) try to understand and support your decision. You shouldn't cop any crap on a site like this.

 

[bigfootrules31]

"wa eva i do wat i wan"

 

[SpyGuy]

Josh, look: I wasn't trying to be insulting, although looking back at my post, I suppose I did exactly that, and I'm sorry. Okay, the guy lied to you - we understand that - but you bought the bike in "as-is" condition. That means as soon as the money changed hands and the bike was in your possession, the other guy had nothing to do with it anymore. He could've poured paint down the cylinder and put sand in the tires, but bottom line, because it was a private sale and not through a dealer, there's not a whole lot you can do about it. I'm sorry you got screwed, but there are a bunch of dishonest people in this world - you just happened to get suckered by one of them.

Your clutch is toast - the shoes are worn down, and no longer contacting the clutch drum, even when you rev it up full throttle. How do I know this? Because my bike did the exact same thing. As soon as I changed clutches, the problem went away. You need to change the clutch.

Use a socket on a short extension to get the center bolt out. If it doesn't come out easily, get a broken screw extractor set, drill the head of the bolt, thread the extractor into the top, and crank that sucker outta there. Get that bad clutch off the bike - use a big screwdriver or crowbar under the bolts, get a gear-puller, even take the entire thing apart and then pry the backing plate off ... just get it off the bike. Order a new clutch (which i'm guessing you already have), set it on the shaft over the keyway, and give it a thunp or two with a rubber mallet to seat it properly. Put a new bolt in the crankshaft, tighten it down, put your clutch cover and chain back on, and go try the bike out.

This is all basic maintenance that you have to do to these bikes to keep them running. Everyone who owns one spends just as much time working on it as they do riding it, so if you plan on keeping it, plan on getting your hands dirty a LOT. As I said earlier, it's your bike - if you want to sell it and throw away all the time and money you've already spent on it, no one here can stop you. Me, I would keep trying to fix it, but it's your choice, not mine.