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[Poboy kartman]

An interesting discussion came up yesterday. about knives and little kids..

Folder or Fulltang?

I vouched for full tang only because I HATE folders for the most part. I only own one, that doesn't even lock open old school baby!.. For a work horse knife full tang always. Also folders make me nervous. if a little kid [we're talking like 7 or so] uses it wrong and it closes on their hand... well yeah.. and how many folders with locking mechs do you really trust? I've seen too many fail.

also found out they make "child safety" knives. With rounded heads... I will never understand that. with enough force you can shove a bowling ball through someones body.... and bowling balls are pretty blunt... LOL

UMMMMM......Maybe don't give little kids knives at all?

Bowling ball? Crap...I've put people's eyes out on this forum with nothing sharper than 2 DIY sickers and a selfie...

 

[machinist@large]

An interesting discussion came up yesterday. about knives and little kids..

Folder or Fulltang?

I vouched for full tang only because I HATE folders for the most part. I only own one, that doesn't even lock open old school baby!.. For a work horse knife full tang always. Also folders make me nervous. if a little kid [we're talking like 7 or so] uses it wrong and it closes on their hand... well yeah.. and how many folders with locking mechs do you really trust? I've seen too many fail.

also found out they make "child safety" knives. With rounded heads... I will never understand that. with enough force you can shove a bowling ball through someones body.... and bowling balls are pretty blunt... LOL

Seven year olds shouldn't be playing with any kind of knife without full adult supervision. Even growing up on a small family farm, I wasn't allowed to have an extremely small folding pocket knife until I was 10~11 years old. And that was pretty much standard for the other farm kids that I grew up with.

Because of this thread, I called my Dad and picked his brain on this; he said that it wasn't a conspiracy; it was the advice from my grandparents generation that if you don't think the kids are mature enough to learn how to drive a tractor, you don't let them play with knives and guns... That was the general consensus of the community......

EDIT: I just dug out that first pocket knife, a three blade US made Sabre.

UMMMMM......Maybe don't give little kids knives at all?

Bowling ball? Crap...I've put people's eyes out on this forum with nothing sharper than 2 DIY sickers and a selfie...

You just had to remind those of us who had the misfortune to see that image, didn't you.....

 

[OzFab]

Seven year olds shouldn't be playing with any kind of knife without full adult supervision.

I have to disagree, seven year olds shouldn't be playing with any kind of knife PERIOD!

 

[J_Walker]

I was playing with knives and lighters when I was 7-8 years old. yikes... I did how ever never set anything on fire, or blow my fingers off, or cut myself.

but my parents didn't know... so I guess that's one aspect of things.

Found the pocket knife [now lost] on the street, and the stoners where I lived loved just throwing lighters out the windows of cars so they were pretty easy to find almost barely used on the side of the street.

but I have ALWAYS been into tools, and knowing their limits and what I should and shouldn't do.. but now everyone puts things in perspective... YEAHHHHHHHH... maybe a general 7 year old shouldn't be handling knives willy nilly.

 

[Poboy kartman]

I was playing with knives and lighters when I was 7-8 years old. yikes... I did how ever never set anything on fire, or blow my fingers off, or cut myself.

but my parents didn't know... so I guess that's one aspect of things.

Found the pocket knife [now lost] on the street, and the stoners where I lived loved just throwing lighters out the windows of cars so they were pretty easy to find almost barely used on the side of the street.

but I have ALWAYS been into tools, and knowing their limits and what I should and shouldn't do.. but now everyone puts things in perspective... YEAHHHHHHHH... maybe a general 7 year old shouldn't be handling knives willy nilly.

Well....to be honest...I think I was 7 when I got my first pocket knife....Never cut myself with it....but I only had it a couple of months when I lost it.

But that was a half century ago...kids these days are long on technology, lacking in supervision, and short on common sense...(generally speaking) .

 

[DirtyDamage]

You have no idea on that common sense thing. I don't know how many times I've seen a classmate or friend do something just completely idiotic. Granted were all 16 but still. Not to mention my sister has hit me with her car twice because I was "walking slow" on the drive way or in the parking lot of a store.

 

[machinist@large]

wow...

The more responses to the last half dozen posts make's me extremely glad that I grew up in the place and time that I did..

 

[chancer]

I hate knives, period! I always cut myself! no joke.

 

[crazykart]

I like knives, swords, axes, and all that fun stuff.

That being said, my son's 5, and he won't touch a knife until he's either 13, or mature enough to listen to rules, and respect the knife. That is whichever comes last. As well he won't be given a knife for himself until I am comfortable with his handling of one while I'm supervising him.

Full tang though. Locks fail, and closing the blade always has the potential to cut you. Blades period have the potential to cut you, but imo that potential is increased with folding blades.

 

[Denny]

I was 6 when I shot my first gun with my dad at the shooting range, 22 Savage bolt action single shot. I was 7 when my grandpa bought me my first jack knife (I still have it). 8 when I got my first gun. I always knew where the keys to the gun cabinet were. Never once did I violate my dad's trust in me. Dad and grandpa took the time to show us how to respect these tools. We were never curious about these things because they were always around us so it was no big deal. But kids now a days with all these shootem up games and killem all do not have the same respect that we did for any kind of life, human or animal. I'm scared!

Denny

 

[machinist@large]

I was 6 when I shot my first gun with my dad at the shooting range, 22 Savage bolt action single shot. I was 7 when my grandpa bought me my first jack knife (I still have it). 8 when I got my first gun. I always knew where the keys to the gun cabinet were. Never once did I violate my dad's trust in me. Dad and grandpa took the time to show us how to respect these tools. We were never curious about these things because they were always around us so it was no big deal. But kids now a days with all these shootem up games and killem all do not have the same respect that we did for any kind of life, human or animal. I'm scared!

Denny

I'm not 100% convinced that you can put all the blame on video games, although that does seem to play into the problem. I'm afraid that the bigger issue is that a lot of families are broken (for what ever reasons) and the job of teaching kids what responsibility is and what its for is falling through the cracks.

And that's all I'm gonna say on it so that this thread doesn't get locked down!!!!!

 

[J_Walker]

I was 6 when I shot my first gun with my dad at the shooting range, 22 Savage bolt action single shot. I was 7 when my grandpa bought me my first jack knife (I still have it). 8 when I got my first gun. I always knew where the keys to the gun cabinet were. Never once did I violate my dad's trust in me. Dad and grandpa took the time to show us how to respect these tools. We were never curious about these things because they were always around us so it was no big deal. But kids now a days with all these shootem up games and killem all do not have the same respect that we did for any kind of life, human or animal. I'm scared!

Denny

don't blame video games for bad parenting... there has been shootings and violence way before video games or TV have existed...

 

[J_Walker]

saw a youtube video today... Now I wanna try. YOUTUBE WHY YOU DO THIS TO ME?!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxcHqwVZf2I

 

[DirtyDamage]

I like how he "catches" a fish at the end, yet doesn't show it. Lol

 

[machinist@large]

saw a youtube video today... Now I wanna try. YOUTUBE WHY YOU DO THIS TO ME?!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxcHqwVZf2I

If you want to go play, enjoy yourself. I would just recommend not welding on the guts of an angle grinder that has a plastic nose cone, let alone ground out the welder through the bearings as he did in multiple shot's...

What gets me is how proud he is of such shoddy workmanship......

J, this is just an idea for you to play with..... Please don't repeat this mans quality mistakes......

 

[J_Walker]

If you want to go play, enjoy yourself. I would just recommend not welding on the guts of an angle grinder that has a plastic nose cone, let alone ground out the welder through the bearings as he did in multiple shot's...

What gets me is how proud he is of such shoddy workmanship......

J, this is just an idea for you to play with..... Please don't repeat this mans quality mistakes......

Wasn't even gonna use a grinder.... just the ideal and setup. and instead of an electric motor, was gonna find a small 2 stroke motor. something like those backpack style leaf blower motors... maybe even if I could find a newer ones that are 4 stroke that'd be fine too.

I always wondered a good way of putting a normal everyday motor to convert it to a marine grade motor. heck a small lawn mower motor might be even better, since the shaft towards the bottom.

 

[DirtyDamage]

Check CL for go peds, 23-46cc two strokes normally more than 3hp

 

[machinist@large]

Wasn't even gonna use a grinder.... just the ideal and setup. and instead of an electric motor, was gonna find a small 2 stroke motor. something like those backpack style leaf blower motors... maybe even if I could find a newer ones that are 4 stroke that'd be fine too.

I always wondered a good way of putting a normal everyday motor to convert it to a marine grade motor. heck a small lawn mower motor might be even better, since the shaft towards the bottom.

Check CL for go peds, 23-46cc two strokes normally more than 3hp

Ummm, I'd be really careful about how the fuel supply is contained, especially in Florida. From what I've heard, they take fuel leaks in the waterways almost as seriously as nuclear accidents.....

 

[Poboy kartman]

Ummmm....do you guys realize how many high torque trolling motors are out there for cheap? I shipped a huge Motorguide to a member for shipping cost....

Made me think though, maybe I should cut holes in the floorboards of my truck....so I can make things more difficult.....

Might be cool in his country....just stupid in America! !!

 

[ML-TOYS]

Omg, just take a weed wacker and put a prop on it