B DL(FreeRunners) 's official gokart build.
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FreeRunner15
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No, lol. The boost gauge won't add power. It just gauges how much boost you have left to use.
Okay..it's a bit difficult to explain.
When you have a small hose coming from a compressor into the "turbo manifold" as i call it.. the small hose allows only so much air to leave until the hose,not the tank, has to recharge the air pressure a.k.a. boost. i'm using aftermarket hoses. clear/blue.
mckutzy
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So Sid, is that like what a "boost bottle" is...
I'm not too familiar with the stuff, but someone described it like what your talking about to me...
I'm not too familiar with the stuff, but someone described it like what your talking about to me...
FreeRunner15
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My Responses in Red.
I think (well.. I fear...) I know what he talks about...
if so, that's one brainfart of an idea I've not seen for quite some time...
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Allow me to explain (what I think he thinks he'll try)
commonly referred to as compressed air boost.
basically a tank that is set up to pressurize the intake.
And, if set up for refilling, ...it is set up for re-fills from more powerful air compressors like at jiffy lube.. it will be filled with 17gallons of compressed air to allow 5 second bursts of medium-amount of extra air, oh yeah, forgot to mention the jets will be bored, the cam will be torquey from medium-low range and then again at medium-to-high-ish range.
a viable (still dumb imho) solution for turbo/supercharged engines to have an additional boost-source to fill in low-rpm potholes. it will be a big powerband once i get the correct amount of FUEL going through the mix.
An utterly stupid idea for non charged engines If it is anything like a vehicles engine, it should be fine if i tune it very precisely. small increments in boost. once it backfires, back off some pounds.
you will have to reduce compression The whole idea is to forcibly raise compression and gain acceleration/top speed quickly..
during normal aspiration during normal aspiration i would change the jets.
that'll draw lots of power you'd rather have at your axle.
but say you're filling the tank at red lights only (*cough*) lol. i will look for a small alternator in the future. either that or put this big 196cc generator i've got to recharge the tank AND power an electric motr if i had one. a motor with a really high speed gear like a 25tooth.
If you can't tell by now, i've been striving to build a car out of a kart. stability upgrdes is a must, dont worry. added length and width upgrades to the list.
Since you cannot add a blow off valve (that'll simply drain the tank to the great outdoors)
you'll have to rely on the tank valve, which will have to be reset according to the remaining tank pressure in order to keep the boost level at least somewhat linear.There will be no blow-off valve. approximately 3 pounds of boost will always be going through the carb.i have the idle blade adjusted perfectly for it. the jets will be pre-set for a constant max of 5 at idle. upgraded brakes will be necessary. drum brakes are no longer useful for this high performance engine.
tricky to achieve electronically, nearly impossible to achieve manually...it's possible. all i have to do is pull the string. and i mean any time i wanted to. like now.i owe one pic or video here
And after all, you run you kart with an airbomb sitting right next to your head, blowing into an engine -that will NOT be set up correctly
Only way that would happen is if i added wayyyy too much combustable pressure.and i mean way too much. and also should be fine as long as i have the camshaft timed correctly as well. Good idea to bring that up. hmmmmm..i will lower my max psi from 40..to 25 for now. 25 pounds pressurizes the manifold instantly. literally instantly.
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a "boost bottle". if you mean the way Nitrous Express designed their nitrous systems, Yes. That is a partial concept of how i would like to design my power band. i dont like how they design theirs to fully spray at a certain rpm. i rather get increments of boost as i give increments of gas.The more gas i push at the pedal the more air gets pushed into the chamber for more power.
i highly recommend a high lift cam with at least a 165 duration so all combustible gases fire in the bore..not the carb.
*shrugs* can't tell for sure, since terminology is vague at best, especially if it crosses linguistic borders
but it sounds like a plausible nomenclature
Although "bottles" always trigger NoS signals in listeners ears
Anyways.. clear blue hoses however are the superior ones soooo
yes, instead of a regulator valve a clear blue hose will certainly..
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Honestly FreeRunner, are you really that dense??
Feel free to shred your head into tiny little shrapnels on a parkinglot of your choice,
but do NOT expect us to applaud to your ridicule nonsense.
YES, there are people that are able and capable of finishing such task in a somehow decent manner with a somewhat reasonable amount of money to spend.
You sir are most certainly not even related to one of them!
Oh and yes.. your responses clearly prove that!
consider me out of here...
'sid
PS ah well.. "self induced collateral damage" just in case the coroner needs a term for your cause of death
FreeRunner15
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You can leave if you want. You are talking to someone who has the knowledge and smarts for turbo charging a n/a car. This is why i don't like posting here often. My great ideas and inventions are good. oh well. you can stay jealous all you want when i'm in a boosted kart.
chancer
ɔ ɥ ɐ u ɔ ǝ ɹ
Uh ok.
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Oh thank you, good to have your permission;
I wouldn't dare to leave without...
..in a different thread...
Thank you, that really made me laugh...
EXACTLY!
Kelly? got some of that popcorn left? I'll bring the beer!
'sid
Kelly Wood
The Mad Kartist
Here ya go.
But we all simply MUST wait for him to do the following feat:
"during normal aspiration during normal aspiration i would change the jets."
THIS, I SIMPLY MUST SEE DONE.
mckutzy
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FreeRunner15
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Here ya go.
But we all simply MUST wait for him to do the following feat:
"during normal aspiration during normal aspiration i would change the jets."
THIS, I SIMPLY MUST SEE DONE.
There's nothing to really see there. Just changing out one big-sized jet to a smaller-sized.
chancer
ɔ ɥ ɐ u ɔ ǝ ɹ
I would just like to see something anything get done to this kart.
Freeman... Get yourself this kart built, So you have a platform to Expirement with.
Freeman... Get yourself this kart built, So you have a platform to Expirement with.
FreeRunner15
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i've mostly been modifying the performance and if you look at the engine you can tell the fuel flow has been modified. i've been building the engine..i dont have the funds for the body right now.
i've been working on fuel and air intake stuff as you can see. red is the air line.. blue is for the fuel line. clamped down.
i like pressing the boost button and watching the pressure go down. and when i release the button, it re charges its self. (i call this boost lag) a bored adaptor will solve that problem)
Video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_o64comRjnw&feature=youtu.be
^the air blows proportional pressures in the gas tank and air intake due to the small size of the fuel-flow hole. Other than that , the air flows with zero problems. Air intake glued shut, reinforced with grey tape. turbo manifold handles 45pounds easily but i wouldnt ever go higher than that, i think. i shouldn't be boosting with the engine off...it will spew gas from the hose- ends.
How's that for building/putting something together ?
All this technology and smarts, and you are going to activate it all by pulling on a string????
And how are you going to change jets when you are busy riding your kart? That is what Kelly was asking.
Put the engine on the kart and start riding it. What do you have to do to the frame that requires money? It looks like it is all there. Put the engine on and ride already!!
And how are you going to change jets when you are busy riding your kart? That is what Kelly was asking.
Put the engine on the kart and start riding it. What do you have to do to the frame that requires money? It looks like it is all there. Put the engine on and ride already!!
FreeRunner15
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ah, okay. sorry, Kelly.
as far as the build is so far.. i still need to reposition the motor to use the torque converter doing so would require me to at lengthen the kart half a foot. i think it would look more like a car and would be more roomy for the legs.
ezcome-ezgo
G'me sumthin to write on
We're 4 pages into a "build" thread and there's virtually no building to speak of. Don't get me wrong, it's entertaining.
bob58o
SuckSqueezeBangBlow
This is way more entertaining than me drawing pics in paint or making spreadsheets for speed vs rpm with different tire sizes and gearing. The hostility is great here!!
mindymogul
Mistress of Destruction
I see another closed thread in the near future. Funny part it FreeRunner can't do crap if it is...
mckutzy
Well-known member
^^^Good call....
IBTL....
IBTL....
FreeRunner15
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Most people would avoid this tach because it has so many wires and noone knows what to do with them.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/0-8-000-RPM-...algo=undefined
Lots of research, .. and Ready to do it. It's a 2inch tach with a light option. i will place it under my steering wheel down the center column .
it is able to be mounted like this..
.. but that is for way Way WAYY later in the build.
Confused about the wires? Hint: 2 of them are just for the tach to light up. a.k.a. ... the "Acc" on your vehicles ignition switch.
Also ... i never plan to go past 8000 RPM max so i bought this one. My eyes and ears will be my governor.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/0-8-000-RPM-...algo=undefined
Lots of research, .. and Ready to do it. It's a 2inch tach with a light option. i will place it under my steering wheel down the center column .
it is able to be mounted like this..
.. but that is for way Way WAYY later in the build.
Confused about the wires? Hint: 2 of them are just for the tach to light up. a.k.a. ... the "Acc" on your vehicles ignition switch.
Also ... i never plan to go past 8000 RPM max so i bought this one. My eyes and ears will be my governor.
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