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why are amercian and brithish troops in iraq

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War isnt about profit specifically, like he is saying. But defense contractors, people who make tanks and guns and bullets do profit from war. Nobody can or will deny this, its a fact of life. And WW2 brought this country out of the great depression and provided alot of the infrastructure that we use today. That was all a by-product, a side effect.

He saying the goverment is profiting from stealing oil, I debunked that statement by showing figures of how much oil is acctually SOLD to the US.

I feel this is all just a waste of argument though, but its good to re-affirm FACTS, even if I am singing mostly to the choir.
 

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6) What war is about profit? Our country is in incredible amounts of debt, billions of dollars. Quite possibly trillions. We're not making money from this. Vietnam wasn't about profit. Korea wasn't. WWII wasn't. WWI wasn't.

nz got rich out of korea. Woolen winter uniforms etc before the days of synthetics

we'd be loaded if your soldiers still wore wool :roflol:

5) They now have a democratic government. Boy! That sucks. The people love us over there because we dethroned a terrible dictator
i Still think this is funny. Sadam was a great ally of the usa during the cold war years. The usa threw heaps of support his way during the Iran-Iraq war. If he was so bad why not get rid of him during/after the first gulf war? Yes you have 'dethroned' him and that is a good thing, but you also (along with the british) helped him/his party into power and helped keep him in power for many years.

It just dosnt add up if you ask me. Something fishy about the whole situation.


But at the end of the day i'd rather have the USA running the world than China or anybody else realy. Look at all the crazy **** the Brits, French, Germans, Japanese, Russians, Dutch, Belgians, Italians, Turks etc etc have done over the years. USA aint so bad/no worse than anybody else imo.
 

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I will thank you all for your excuses and stuff but they dont fool me, cover up storys.
You got to spend money to make money.And the people that make bullets and stuff are going to profit of war aswell, its not rocket sience that, Going to leave this thread here before some one can make a book on it.

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Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutley.

His beef was not really with the USA, his problem stemmed from trying to commit genocide against the Kurds. Im not much on the politics of the desert storm war.

We ***** slapped him and said fall in line or else, well he didnt learn.

When the **** hits the fan, who does the world turn to? Who helps everyone and everybody when natural disasters strike? When somebody is infringing upon the free people of the world who steps in?

The USA is easy to blame and call a bully, but when the going gets tough, nobody has any problem letting us handle the problem for them and getting our hands dirty.
 

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Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutley.

His beef was not really with the USA, his problem stemmed from trying to commit genocide against the Kurds. Im not much on the politics of the desert storm war.

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the usa did turn a blind eye to what he was doing to the kurds during the iran-iraq war tho.

i agree 100% with you about the whole USA hating thing.

the world is ****ed up. Er body should just drink more beers :cheers2:
 

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"Er body should just drink more beers"

Somehow I dont see that helping... at all...

if everybody would actually think, then that might make a difference...
 

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Maybe they would, if you could actually spell.

if you understood what i said then your as daft as your making me out to be ..
Lets end it here, you guys wont admit nothing.
Just come out with all this history bollocks, im not talking about the past im talking about now, this stuffs happening as we speak so stay out them history books pal.
Devino i dont read my post over and over again and put commers and stuff all over the place to impress people with english.
Put it this way im more english than you no matter what my speelings like so stop changing subject.
toystory delete this thread or it will get ugly belive me
 

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toystory delete this thread or it will get ugly belive me

Not if YOU don't let it. I'm not the only one that can do it, either.
Furthermore, as angry as some of this is making me, I must admit to a morbid curiosity to see just how much more asinine this could possibly get... Kinda like a gory accident at the side of the highway- you know you shouldn't look, but you just can't help yourself!
 

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nz got rich out of korea. Woolen winter uniforms etc before the days of synthetics

we'd be loaded if your soldiers still wore wool :roflol:

i Still think this is funny. Sadam was a great ally of the usa during the cold war years. The usa threw heaps of support his way during the Iran-Iraq war. If he was so bad why not get rid of him during/after the first gulf war? Yes you have 'dethroned' him and that is a good thing, but you also (along with the british) helped him/his party into power and helped keep him in power for many years.

It just dosnt add up if you ask me. Something fishy about the whole situation.

But at the end of the day i'd rather have the USA running the world than China or anybody else realy. Look at all the crazy **** the Brits, French, Germans, Japanese, Russians, Dutch, Belgians, Italians, Turks etc etc have done over the years. USA aint so bad/no worse than anybody else imo.

But did NZ enter the war to make a profit? No. This is what he was saying. "All wars a waged to make a profit." Wrong. There are side effects, like industries profitting, but not the country attacking. Sorry, but you missed the boat on this one Victa.

Yes, we helped him to power. We gave him power. He took it too far, we forced him into a spider hole, pulled him out, and hung him. He had his chance and blew it. Now he's taking a dirt nap.

Lets end it here, you guys wont admit nothing.
Just come out with all this history bollocks, im not talking about the past im talking about now, this stuffs happening as we speak so stay out them history books pal.
Devino i dont read my post over and over again and put commers and stuff all over the place to impress people with english.
toystory delete this thread or it will get ugly belive me

What is there to admit? That you believe an unconfirmed conspiracy theory as true? Yes. I'll admit that we have different opinions and that you believe a conspiracy theory as fact and will probably go to your grave defending it.

We aren't in the history books here. We're debating current events.

I'm not even going to go on to your butchery of the English language. I'll just say that I don't have to re-read to properly insert "commers", periods, and general punctuation.

This is a great thread. Sure, there are arguments, but it's interesting. Some of us achieve our points, others look foolish.
 

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Pshh its NOT a conspiracy theory, just ask him.....

I got 5 bucks that says he wears a tinfoil hat.....any takers?

:roflol::roflol:

Hey look, Its Honda-GX!

Gotta love the look on the cats face.
 

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Lol now I am just being a mean USA bully! I wonder if GX has any oil laying around doing nothing.....

I bet that cat wants to rip his throat out, thinking if only I were 50 pounds heavier, you would DIE fatass!
 

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I'm sure you could Bush to help you bully GX and steal his oil. Get Jr. though cause Sr. fails.
 
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