why are amercian and brithish troops in iraq

[redsox985]

so your saying usa and uk troops over there taking oil petrol and leaving them with nothing then getting there own from there own country, and you think thats ok.
Bush is behind the 9/11, im going to get my girlfriend to find the documentary on the 9/11 and post it.
I still have no answer on why usa an uk troops even went there in first place.
There are loads of muslim countrys that are chilled and afgan iraq would are chilled if left alone.
War is about profit lets face it, there over there steeling like redsox is saying but in better words to make it sound like there not doing wrong.
usa and uk are bad for what they have done and what there still doing.
I keep hearing people saying what im saying is ignorant, invading someone elses country is PURE ignorant.]
Just think of all the lifes lost of are troops and familys that suffer from it, all because of steeling and making profit

quote Oh, yeah- one other thing. If this had anything to do with taking oil, don't you suppose "we" would've just nuked the entire middle east and TAKEN the dammed oil by now?????

there staying and taking bit by bit and covering everthing up bit by bit as there going along, if they nuked them and robbed them then they would look even worse,
im british and its us thats doing it aswell as the yanks so im not just discriminating the yanks
And whos saying anything about the japan thing no one , so what you talking japan for at all.
bin laden didnt do 9/11 or he would have admitted to it and been proud of it

Thats what you call greed. Are fuel prices are £1.32 a litre and thats a joke at that.
And who ever is incharged of the country is incharge of the fuel prices.
Your goverment dont think yeah we got loads of oil and fuel for nothing lets drop the price of fuel in the usa and uk, . they just put price up a bit as they do every so often anyway

Are you blind!? Can you read what we are writing!? You are an idiot on the most basic levels. You entirely disregard everything we are saying. Just because you have seen "Loose Change" doesn't make you an expert on 9/11. What about JFK and Jack Ruby, what's the story behind Jack Ruby killing LHO to cover it up? Was 2pac killed because he rapped about the Illuminati? Were the Illuminati involved in the World Cup? Does Michael Jackson live on an island with Elvis and 2pac? Did FRD allow Pearl Harbor to happen so the US could enter WWII? Check out www.therearenosunglasses.com, GX. You'll love all the crap on there although it will do nothing but liberalize your misconstrewed views further. I quit trying to post in this thread, you are an imbecile.

Finally, check this out. You have next to zero knowledge of what are talking about. Please, educate yourself, not in books, but of the world around you, then come debate this.

http://www.google.com/#q=bin+laden+takes+credit+for+9+11

 

[redsox985]

Wow, that felt great!

 

[CriticalMass]

English motherfu**er do you speak it!

 

[Rustydog2010]

You ask a question, we tell you our opinions and you fully ignore everything that is said.

Why even bother to ask, if you are so shallow to take into consideration other opinions?

Jeremy.

 

[honda-gx-power]

I ask a question and cant get nothing but excuses thats what im getting at.
No need to quote eveything ive said i can read it.
I hope all british and yank troops get hurt badly whilest bulling thats all im saying now
TREAD ENDED

 

[redsox985]

This is too pathetic to not reply. What excuses were you given? Quote them because I'd love to see what you're calling excuses. I feel it's impossible for you to hold a rational converstaion because the moment you are out of your league, which seems often, you would immediately resort to sheer blind stupidity. Please point out the excuses we gave you.

Are you calling all of the info Critical, TS, and I gave you excuses because you're too narrow minded to believe that this isn't about filthy rotten greed for oil? I think that you're too blind to the world to acknowledge that this could be about anything more than simple greed. You have admitted to being under educated and now it's shining through like a beacon.

 

[honda-gx-power]

Going bed it 3.20am cant be bothered with this thread till tomorrow.
I get sarcky replys of use guys thats about it.
speak tomorrow.

 

[redsox985]

I'm not being sarcastic. I never have been. Bull headed stupidity annoys me. I want to see what you consider an excuse as to why we're in the middle east. As far as I know, everything I've posted has been well established fact.


I'm going to make this very simple for you.

We invaded Afghanistan in 2001 in response to the Taliban attacking us. We went in to find bin Laden and are yet to do so. We are going to remain in Afghanistan until he is found. We are pulling out of Iraq, not Afghanistan. Do you realize these are separate countries?
We invaded Iraq in 2003 because intel pointed to WMDs.
The US and UK both have WMDs. They're called nuclear weapons. In fact, the US has them located on bases and ships all around the world.
We are not in Iraq to steal their oil. They provide less than 2% of our oil. We buy it from other countires which our military is not in.
In case you haven't noticed, we are still in the middle east although we elected one of the most liberal presidents in out history, maybe second only to FDR.
I never said we are stealing oil. We are not over there for oil. If we were, gas wouldn't be in excess of $4 a gallon. It would be free, that's what stealing is.
Also, Osama bin Laden has taken full claim to 9/11, not George Bush, sorry.
YOU are the definition of ignorant. It means uneducated or not learned. Not rude, mean, or however you are interpreting it.
I'm not candy coating any of what I say. I speak fluent English, and I take a small sense of pride in doing it right, especially on an international forum, where many people who speak English exclusively, can't speak English.

You have no respect for human lives. Our soldiers are over in the middle east defending your unfortunate right to be an idiot. They die so that the so called radicals don't get the opportunity to kill you. How can you wish death upon men who are out there fighting for you? They follow orders. They don't call the shots, they fire them as they are told to you.

You are pitiful. I am 17 years old. I was in 2nd grade when 9/11 occurred. How are you so uneducated about the very world surrounding you? I'm not some well versed adult with experience in politics and global issues, I am a kid and worry about stupid crap (such as picking NCAA basketball brackets and winning money from them) yet I am consistantly proving you incorrect.

 

[CriticalMass]

No you didn't ask a question, you stated your opinion and haven't swayed contrary to the many people telling you that you are wrong.

Hey we can only tell you what we know, and what we know is you need to get your facts straight before calling for the deaths and suffering of men and women doing what they are told. That's pretty sick

 

[fowler]

i agree with redsox

the media twists things to there liking

dont believe everything u see and hear

 

[CriticalMass]

Speaking of I saw redsox quoted my 2% thing. I just kinda threw that out there because I heard it somewhere but never followed up on it. I'll be ****ed if I wasn't just about spot on.

http://www.eia.doe.gov/pub/oil_gas/...ons/company_level_imports/current/import.html

That's the top 15 exporters of crude to the us in barrels. The top 15 makes up like 8000 thousand barrels(that's 8 million to those who hate thinking) with Iraq bringing in 340?

That's just the top 15 so were talking like 3% or somewhere close. I could bust out the calculator and mad math skills but I am in bed and well I'm lazy.

Crazy I didn't know we got so much from Canada. **** canadiens are the ones driving prices up. All you canadiens better watch out, if bush finds out you have alot of oil he's gonna come rob you.....

 

[sexyvicta]

Your info is quite skewed. We supplied the Taliban, mostly in Afghanistan, not Iraq (where the "awful dictator" you speak of ruled), with weapons to win their independence from being taken over. Sounds to me like a good way to make allies. But that doesn't matter because it's not what their religion calls for, and that is the final decision.



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you have misunderstood what i wrote. Let me be more clear: In Iraq, the CIA helped Sadam into power. In Afganistan the CIA supplied Taleban etc with weapons to fight the ussr.

I was making coment in response to stuff like: "yay usa! we got rid of sadam and fight the evil telebans"

lol

edit: i just thought it was ironic thats all. lol at my orrrsum spelling btw i cbf too many beers

 

[Cam]

too many beers

I think we all need to sit back and have a few, considering nothing we say can change the situation anyway

 

[Doc Sprocket]

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I hope all british and yank troops get hurt badly

Ladies and gentlemen, congratulations are in order, I think we have a winner! This has got to be beyond a shadow of a doubt, the most singularly idiotic thing I have read on this forum.
Whose side are you on, anyway? And how ironic is it that thousands have died in the past in our respective western-cultured countries to guarantee your right to make such an incredibly shameful statement?
Hey- were you in Toronto for the recent G20 summit meetings? I'll bet you were one of the protesters? You know, the morons who ran around screaming about peace, all the while burning police cars, looting businesses, and generally wasting perfectly good oxygen?

Seriously, grow up. You've clearly had it too good in your little bubble. When reality hits, it's gonna suck. Just sayin'.

 

[fowler]

cant u lock this thread up as it is getting more and more out of control

 

[redsox985]

Our soldiers are over in the middle east defending your unfortunate right to be an idiot.

...

 

[honda-gx-power]

So you saying again that you went to take revenge on 9/11 thats all i keep hearing.
You thick or what. (thats and excuse derrrrr)
Like i will say again, do you not think taliban would have owned up to 9/11, i think so.
They would of been proude of it.
redsox how about deal with it ,your countrys out of order for what they have and are doing.
My countrys out of order aswell for licking yanky ***.
Its like everyone from all over he world think usa are in the wrong for what there doing and the usa people think its ok to do it and make up excuses why there doing it.
Bushes dad ****ed up on steeling there stuff so hes having ago at it, just like the aussies on this site are saying.
Theres loads of people on this site that are thinking the same as me but dont want to say anything as they will upset the yanks on this site.
I say what i think and dont give a dam.
And if your taking revenge dont you think 7 years of bullying is enough revenge.
You seen the state of what use have done over there, come on bud.
WARS ABOUT PROFIT JUST FACE IT.

 

[CriticalMass]

It's easy to blame bush and say that because it is easy for the simple mind to assign blame and connect the dots.

The fact is that although you may think bush has some vendetta against saddam, when Clinton went to war with him first over the same reason.

And it is a fact that the president does not declare war, congress does, and members of congress fund the war.

If what you say had any truth to it, don't you think congress would have done something about it? Even when dems took over congress in 2007 they continued to fund the war. They still continue to fund the war even after all these years, why? Because it's needed and we are the only ones capable of standing up against the jihadists.

Your opinion is based on a biased documentary, and not on facts.

You say we are bullies to the Iraqis, yet my friends in the service who have spent multiple tours over there have told me the Iraqis love our soldiers, they know the price that was paid for their freedom of tyranny.

You know nothing, you are reguritating baseless opinions loosely connected to any reality.

 

[redsox985]

1) So you saying again that you went to take revenge on 9/11 thats all i keep hearing.
2) Like i will say again, do you not think taliban would have owned up to 9/11, i think so.
They would of been proude of it.
3) Bushes dad ****ed up on steeling there stuff so hes having ago at it, just like the aussies on this site are saying.
4) Theres loads of people on this site that are thinking the same as me but dont want to say anything as they will upset the yanks on this site.
5) You seen the state of what use have done over there, come on bud.
6) WARS ABOUT PROFIT JUST FACE IT.

1) I never said it was to go do harm to the people in revenge. It was to take down the leader who harmed us. That's all you keep hearing because you are too stubborn and ignorant (uneducated, not rude) to acknowledge anything else. You are basing your opinions on a conspiracy theory (most likely Loose Change?) and will not realize anything but. I have seen Loose Change and other films, but they are just too porous to be real. We are friends with a guy who lived in NYC at the time and witness the plane impacts and all of the sequential events. He does not doubt anything but what has been stated: the Taliban and bin Laden were responsible and the government had nothing to do with it.

2) The Taliban, under Osama bin Laden, took responsibility for 9/11!!! How stupid are you!

3) You claim Bush wants to make up for his father's "failures". Based in what info? Bush hasn't been in office for quite some time yet we are still over there.

4) Loads of people? I don't see them coming out in droves to say their beliefs.

5) They now have a democratic government. Boy! That sucks. The people love us over there because we dethroned a terrible dictator.

6) What war is about profit? Our country is in incredible amounts of debt, billions of dollars. Quite possibly trillions. We're not making money from this. Vietnam wasn't about profit. Korea wasn't. WWII wasn't. WWI wasn't.

 

[devino246]

I hope all british and yank troops get hurt badly whilest bulling thats all im saying now

Grounds for banning, IMO