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tried welding in my basement, didnt work. i need a vent.
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That's an awful idea. Especially with a flux core welded running HF wire throwing slag all about. You're going to start a fire by welding in your house, at least move to the concrete floored garage. Flux cored produces a good bit of smoke as you found out.
Blazkowiez
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Never weld, paint, cut, or expose yourself to hazardous chemicals in an enclosed space. These are terrible things that can permanently damage, you, do not ever take things like this lightly. If you have a garage you need to take the welder in there and deal with it, if you need to take the welder outside use a heavy duty extension cord, nothing with a thin gauge of wire which will have trouble carrying the amperage to properly operate the welder.
devino246
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What were you thinking
On a similar note, if I remember correctly, S&M Bikes has offices for their welders. Of course their doing TIG and have fume extractors and such. In any case though, welding inside should never be done.
On a similar note, if I remember correctly, S&M Bikes has offices for their welders. Of course their doing TIG and have fume extractors and such. In any case though, welding inside should never be done.
KieranM
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Bad mate, just wait untill you have enough to buy a shed of do it outside, if you start a fire, have fun trying to convince the insurance company to pay out.
Blazkowiez
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I've seen sheds on craigslist for as cheep as 100 dollars, the killer is moving them.
Welding can be done indoors if the ventilation is properly set up. I know my school's shop is in the basement and has no exterior walls. They wanted concrete all around for a metal shop just it won't start a fire. There are vent hoods above the welding booths that create a significant air flow that pulls saw dust from wood tech into the shop (wood and metal are connected by an office). The wood tech office door also must be stopped open or else the negative air will close it. So, with proper ventilation, it can be done. The only downside to concrete is that it pops whenever molten aluminum spills over the castings. LOL. We now pour onto a 1/2" steel plate.
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well i welded for a while in there today to see what would happen. it got pretty smokey yeah..........
i dont think anything is going to light on fire.
well tonight i asked my rents permission to move all the rest of the crap out of my work area, they said "absolutely not now, but when we have time we will talk."
i take that as never like always
i will never be able to get a shed also, we have a shed but its too small for a workplace minus the mower and bikes etc.
we used to have a garage, i just learned today. my parents converted it into a playroom for me when i was 2.
they said it would be like 20,000 to convert it back so i guess its out of the question.
also its getting freezing cold outside.
i dont think anything is going to light on fire.
well tonight i asked my rents permission to move all the rest of the crap out of my work area, they said "absolutely not now, but when we have time we will talk."
i take that as never like always
i will never be able to get a shed also, we have a shed but its too small for a workplace minus the mower and bikes etc.
we used to have a garage, i just learned today. my parents converted it into a playroom for me when i was 2.
they said it would be like 20,000 to convert it back so i guess its out of the question.
also its getting freezing cold outside.
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oh okay. as long as i wear a gas mask 
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well im not going to be stupid. tuesday im going to home depot or lowes to look for basement vents and pipes.
for now obviously i have to bring everything outside, which is through 2 rooms, up the stairs, across a hall, out the door, and around to the side of the house.
sigh.
no one from my area has much intrest in building anything or fixing things, thats why im in an adult education welding class with my dad. yeah, it sucks. more of my friends would rather buy go karts new.
and then i have the friends that say hey, lets build a go kart. lets strap an engine on a frame and go.
for now obviously i have to bring everything outside, which is through 2 rooms, up the stairs, across a hall, out the door, and around to the side of the house.
sigh.
no one from my area has much intrest in building anything or fixing things, thats why im in an adult education welding class with my dad. yeah, it sucks. more of my friends would rather buy go karts new.
and then i have the friends that say hey, lets build a go kart. lets strap an engine on a frame and go.
r97
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i hear ya, all i got while i was building my kart was "why don't you just buy one, i saw a brand new dune buggy on ebay for 500 that looked awesome"
EDIT: hows about you weld up one of these at your class? http://www.harborfreight.com/garage-shop/ventilation-blowers/8-inch-portable-ventilator-97762.html grab an old electric leaf blower and your done.
EDIT: hows about you weld up one of these at your class? http://www.harborfreight.com/garage-shop/ventilation-blowers/8-inch-portable-ventilator-97762.html grab an old electric leaf blower and your done.
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i own a welder now. HF 90 amp flux.
im hopefully gonna go to home depot or HF tuesday to see what they have.
what about washer/dryer vent tube?
im hopefully gonna go to home depot or HF tuesday to see what they have.
what about washer/dryer vent tube?
I don't think a vent tube would suffice unless you have a large amount of suction and the tube is kept very near the weld. I guess you could if you put a funnel style thing on the intake of the fan and then that funnel weld to the tube which you kept near the weld to suck up the gases.
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Its gasless welding. So good news my mom agreed to pay 100% for a vent system!
r97
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funding is always nice! make sure you up those pipes, it would stink to get all the smoke out of the first room and let it roam free in the kitchen! lol, i will look and see if hd has anything good
http://www.homedepot.com/Building-Materials-Ceilings-Attics-Ventilation/h_d1/N-5yc1vZ1xpxZas18/R-100014195/h_d2/ProductDisplay?langId=-1&storeId=10051&catalogId=10053
you may wish for a flexible end of the pipe because its not always easy to move your project, also with flux core you may consider an air filter, (i have seen huge plumes of smoke floating up the street). spark arrestor? its your call maybe the fan is too expensive, plus you will need to hardwire it, or at least make some little junction box (might be a bad idea) to avoid the 80 dollar electrician fee
http://www.homedepot.com/Building-Materials-Ceilings-Attics-Ventilation/h_d1/N-5yc1vZ1xpxZas18/R-100014195/h_d2/ProductDisplay?langId=-1&storeId=10051&catalogId=10053
you may wish for a flexible end of the pipe because its not always easy to move your project, also with flux core you may consider an air filter, (i have seen huge plumes of smoke floating up the street). spark arrestor? its your call maybe the fan is too expensive, plus you will need to hardwire it, or at least make some little junction box (might be a bad idea) to avoid the 80 dollar electrician fee
devino246
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Make sure you have a good size ABC fire extinguisher on hand too.
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yeah i better get a fire extinguisher lol,
i can wire basics like i fixed the family tv (from the 80's) and ive made switches for a bunch of stuff so i can wire a 120v fan to a swich and outlet just fine, i probably have a light swich already laying around.
i can wire basics like i fixed the family tv (from the 80's) and ive made switches for a bunch of stuff so i can wire a 120v fan to a swich and outlet just fine, i probably have a light swich already laying around.
r97
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yea, simple electrical stuff isn't complicated, if you just make some junction box with the fan wires going into it, a switch, and half of an extension cord to go into the wall outlet you'l be good, also, if you get the fan from hd, make sure you disable the heat sensor thing.
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