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all this post was about was how to vent just a little smoke, im not questioning if its even a little bit unsafe. you dont really get it, cement floor, covered walls, vent system. its not gaswelding people its flux core.

i dont see how cement can light on fire.

i hope you guys read this.

OK. I can take a hint. I'm outta here. Good luck.
 

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im getting a 1 seater so i might just have to take off the seat and wheels to work on it over the winter. next spring i will have it ready for a new year of fun.

better than leaving it outside 24/7
 

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im sorry but your ignoring EVERYONES warnings. your being stupid. everybody is telling you not to do it but your too stuborn to believe it. have you ever read the msds on welding wire? i understand your just a kid but thats no excuse when you have 6 people telling you that not only is it a bad idea for your own personal health but for you familys also. im utterly speechless that your parents would allow you to weld in their basement. whats wrong with welding outside? its too cold? come on man up. ive built fence in the snow the last 6 years straight. and i didnt have hot peices of steel to warm up with. your being lazy and ignorant.and it may just cost you your place to live. also you may not believe that a little spatter will burst into flames when hitting wood but wait... how long have you been welding? that welder looks pretty new. so you have alot of experience in this sort of thing? your in for a rude awakening because red hot steel WILL burst into flames when it hits wood. i think maybe you should listen to people that have a "little" more experience than you or find a safer hobby. im sorry if this comes off rude but I dont *****foot around anything. im not sure why im arguing with a 14 year old, obviously you know best.
Headline: 14 year old Burns down house after ignoring good advice from at least 5 people.
 

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I can attest to woods flamablity. I was welding on a piece last night [before I here the choir, it was because I needed a square jig, and I was watching what I was doing, quickly snuffing out the flames] and every single time I pressed the trigger, a new flame popped up. I nearly grabbed for the extinguisher once or twice.. I have wood in my welding area, but I am extremely careful to cover everything, with multiple lays of plastic, hanging infront of it, so everything bounces back at me, rather than the wood.

A welding cart of wood= BAD idea.. I am an excelent carpenter... but I save it for making COFFEE TABLEs.. and not things around intense heat. The only way I was able to weld on my wooden bench, is because I know how to properly treat the wood, to perserve moisture. Even then I had a small flame pop up.. but the glove quickly snuffed it.

Also, if you ever decide to add a gas tank to the welder(can be done by adding a different gun, and using different wire.. probably more than its worth, but still possible) you DO NOT want fire to be near compresseed cylinders, ranging from 1-3000psi... lets put it this way... enough to go through a cinderblock wall... and still rip your leg off on the other side..



If you want to ignore our advice, then so be it, we won't offer any more, leave you to your own devices... but if you were smart, you would heed our advice.. maybe I am preaching to the choir, or a brick, but our advice IS VALID...

I can see the headlines too: "Family Dead, Freshman Puke failed to heed warnings"
 

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I should also add: That fan that says it for welding ventilation: That means that I can open the garage door, and use it to blow Zinc fumes away, to avoid Monday Morning Fever.... not to suck out every fume in an enclosed space. Why else would people buy $10,000 systems, if a $100 alternative, that was actually SAFE, was available...??? Huh?

You would be better off just sucking it up, and doing it outside. I am sure if you spoke to your parents, in a logical, not 14 year old way, they would be willing to let YOU clean out the garage. Thats what I did. It was an absolute pig sty. I asked if I could have it, granted I clean it out. And hear I am now, perfect workspace. I even cleaned it to better than ever. I never did finish it, because we are selling the house, but within the next few years, but I was going to, which shows maturity to the parents(well now parent.)
 

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"Family Dead, Freshman Puke failed to heed warnings"

come on.

@flexibelkampfe obviously you havent been listening to a thing i say, i said i DIDNT HAVE a garage like 10 times.

i just made a video and i guess it didnt change your minds?

just drop this thread, its useless now anyways.
 

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A: I must have mis-read workroom as garage. Sorry I cant deal with your issues, and my own crap at the same time... reading someones idiotic ideas, while attempting to write an english paper...

B: The video was for the most part illogical.

C: You do have a driveway, I assume. Its a non-flamable slab that works well for welding on.. versus an interior room... all it takes is 1 spark to hit insulation, and goodbye #### Such&Such Street..
 

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if u didnt think that wood was going to catch on fire then why didnt u try it to prove it

i did the same as flexibel i used wood as a spcer while i welded and the thing caught fire and i had to run and find a puddle
i was useing jarrah which is harder to set on fire

and yes some insulation can burn very well
 

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And the funny thing is, I wasnt using a dry piece of pine... I was using a piece of MDF... which has a hard surface on one side... so its not as easy to burn...

Bottom line... dont try it.../Dont do it... it may very well save your life.


We arent doing this to be mean, nor do we have an agenda to perform... we just want to help keep your breathing...
 

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im not gonna be stupid guys...... i dunno if the fan i got has enough power im yet to test it out.

what else do i need to take out of the room so its like a garage???
 

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Where to start.... Concrete Floor.. Concrete walls... 20ftx7ft door.... Unless you are completely remodeling, its not going to work..

Many people have said they "werent going to be stupid" and ended up in the ground.
 

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Everything that's not concrete. Then get a respirator so that you don't suck in any awful gases from the flux cored wire.
 
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