truck talk

[fowler]

This is getting alarmingly close to redneck:toetap05:

Do a bit of budgeting here
How much did u spend and how much can u make

This thing was a wreak and u have done a good job recovering it
But when u start full time work u are going to need a totally reliable car

If I was u I'd work out how much I'd make by flogging it off
Return it to stock and get it running good and make it look good
Sell it and get hold of a good truck to base your mods on and a good truck to put money in
U may have a money pit at the moment

 

[cumminsbayou4x4]

a 4bt cummins would be awsome but a 12valve would be more powerful cheaper and they are easy to find youd need to get a f250 front end with the supson and a rear end

 

[Bluethunder3320]

^only said 4 cyl cause of the weight, its gotta be much heavier than the 300 i6

im not sure how much i have into it, but i have reciepts from everything i have bought for it.

im going to drive it to work and hopefully it holds up long enough for me to make enough money for another truck then i can sell this.


the exhaust is really redneck haha... i might just put the old down pipe back on after a while. waste of $20

 

[RobertD]

My brother has a 92 and 97 Cummins 12valve he runs cooking oil in. I like the 92... its fun goin down the road, lookin back through the mirrors seein billowing black smoke as he goes through the gears... I want one.

My buddy used to drive one of those. After he wrecked it, he couldn't find another. Apparently ppl that own 'em don't want to sell 'em.

 

[crazzywolfie]

my dads friend stuffed a 12 valve Cummins in his 2wd f150. the guy runs used motor oil/used transmission fluids/old and bad gas mix through his Cummins most of the time. only runs diesel for a couple of km's before he gets home so that he has fresh diesel in the pump to start it. the good thing about the ford is it has the dual tanks which make running different types of fuel easy. now if you can't tell my dads friend works at a junk yard and gets used oils and bad gas for pretty much nothing as apposed to the $1.14/liter that gas stations are selling diesel for.

 

[Bluethunder3320]

if im gonna have to get f250 front suspension, front and rear axles, its not worth it. considering my frame is botched up and the cab is a rusty mess.(even though i welded in a floor, i have no cab corners and the cab support is half gone)

EDIT: im starting to think the truck was re painted, since i can tell the box wheel wells have been already done, (they are rusted out again under the paint lol) and there is no way the paint can be this decent with the amount of rust underneath it.

EDIT 2: the redneck dryer tube exhaust didnt last long. the first time i drove it, the dryer tube vibrates REALLY loud when the engine is under load. it sounded like a ricer. so i pulled over and ripped off the tube lol

got a tool box.

 

[Bluethunder3320]

i removed a few emissions things... and it seems to run a little better

i fixed the squeaking by jamming a screwdriver in the tailgate lol

i really get on the gas @4 mins
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCER6I7S8CQ&feature=youtu.be

 

[cumminsbayou4x4]

why you want to put a carb on it

 

[crazzywolfie]

thats a pretty nice tool box. i want to get one but don't want to spend the big bucks one of those cost new or even used.

i would also say keep it fuel injected. carbs may be simpler but fuel injection is better especially if you ever want to do any off roading. also if you were to swap to carb i think your fuel mileage would drop especially if you stick a 4barrel carb on there.

 

[fowler]

No point going back in time

If carbs were so good they would still use them

May as well learn how to test and service fuel injection
If u want to train to be a mechanic then u will
Find they don't teach carbs anymore

 

[Bluethunder3320]

the reason i was thinking carb is because then i could completely remove the computer, vaccum hoses, emissions parts, throttle body, etc. make it very basic, and increase power. the engine would run cooler without getting exhaust pumped back into it...

already took some stuff out and the engine bay is looking a lot neater (smog pump, after run blower(its broken), carbon canister, coffee can lol)

next is to cap off the rail with bolts, clean up the top of the engine and paint stuff.

 

[crazzywolfie]

i think you may be mixing up info there. going carb will not necessarily gain you any power. if anything you will loose lots of power. plus you can't just jump into install sticking a carb on something. there is lots of stuff you have to learn like what would be the perfect carb to use. i have read lots of people sticking 650cfm carbs on 318's or 360's in trucks. maybe that 650cfm carb would be ok if the engine was built for and installed in a car that hits high rpm's but most trucks would be lucky to see 5000 rpm.

now the only people i usually see go carb is the people that spend lots of money on an engine and don't want to spend $1000-$5000 on installing fuel injection system. a carb can run an engine great but a computer can run it better even tho they can be a bit more complicated to trouble shoot.
heres a dyno result of a engine that had been run on carb and FI

http://www.moparmusclemagazine.com/techarticles/mopp_0602_chrysler_slant_six_engine/viewall.html

 

[B man]

i think you may be mixing up info there. going carb will not necessarily gain you any power. if anything you will loose lots of power. plus you can't just jump into install sticking a carb on something. there is lots of stuff you have to learn like what would be the perfect carb to use. i have read lots of people sticking 650cfm carbs on 318's or 360's in trucks. maybe that 650cfm carb would be ok if the engine was built for and installed in a car that hits high rpm's but most trucks would be lucky to see 5000 rpm.

now the only people i usually see go carb is the people that spend lots of money on an engine and don't want to spend $1000-$5000 on installing fuel injection system. a carb can run an engine great but a computer can run it better even tho they can be a bit more complicated to trouble shoot.
heres a dyno result of a engine that had been run on carb and FI

http://www.moparmusclemagazine.com/techarticles/mopp_0602_chrysler_slant_six_engine/viewall.html

I think what he means is it will end up giving more power than HIS current setup.

 

[Blazkowiez]

I love the box, I had one on my truck for a few years and removed it for looks. It was very functional however it did get broken from some of those thieving fellows who wanted to borrow my tools.

In the end we welded 2 straps of steel to make 2 ring latches in the front of the steel box and I used a masterlock with a 1/2" latch. I think I could've knocked someone out with that beast of a lock.

 

[fowler]

Be careful what vacuume lines u remove and cap anything u remove
The vacuume from the throttle body is what gives u brake assist

U may as well stick with the EFI
It wil be a good learning experience
U are going to have to learn all the types of EFI anyway

If u resell it the person is going to want everything as stock as possible

 

[newrider3]

Daily driving a carbureted truck isn't all it's cracked up to be. EFI is a nice thing to have, unless for some reason you enjoy your engine going out of tune whenever you change elevation, or whenever the weather changes.

Just stop removing any "emissions crap" right now while you're ahead. All these components are designed to run as a system, and anything you remove is going to have an adverse effect on the way your engine runs. That 'coffee can' you junked is a vacuum reservoir, which stores vacuum for things like the HVAC and cruise control systems, its not emissions related. The charcoal canister isn't harmful either, it puts no stress on the vehicle, and makes it so your truck doesn't reek of raw fuel on hot days.

Also, just because you don't have to do emissions inspection and testing now doesn't mean you won't have to in the future. I'm in the process right now of reinstalling all these systems on my truck that's never done emissions in its life, but it is now required to.

 

[Bluethunder3320]

Daily driving a carbureted truck isn't all it's cracked up to be. EFI is a nice thing to have, unless for some reason you enjoy your engine going out of tune whenever you change elevation, or whenever the weather changes.

Just stop removing any "emissions crap" right now while you're ahead. All these components are designed to run as a system, and anything you remove is going to have an adverse effect on the way your engine runs. That 'coffee can' you junked is a vacuum reservoir, which stores vacuum for things like the HVAC and cruise control systems, its not emissions related. The charcoal canister isn't harmful either, it puts no stress on the vehicle, and makes it so your truck doesn't reek of raw fuel on hot days.

Also, just because you don't have to do emissions inspection and testing now doesn't mean you won't have to in the future. I'm in the process right now of reinstalling all these systems on my truck that's never done emissions in its life, but it is now required to.

dang.. well i dont have cruise control. i might stop where im at anyways.

oh and the latches on the box arent that strong. theyre made of bolts and thin aluminum.
...but im taking welding this year so i could use the TIG to reinforce it if i have to.

 

[Bluethunder3320]

just messing with the truck haha

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7YUetH5imA

 

[frankysfree]

Haha. Your from up north. Have fun starting the truck in the winter if you convert to carb... Plus EVERY fuel injected vehicle IS more fuel efficient than the same engine would with a carb on it. You dont see prius or any vehicle built past the 80's with a carb on it. You know why? Its called the EPA. They forced carmakers to go to FI to get emmisions in check and you know what emmisions are right? Mainly unburnt fuel...

 

[Bluethunder3320]

im probably going to keep the efi for now

tomorrow im going to weld a bolt into the hole in the cat... and order some gaskets for the intake so i can take them off, paint them, clean the throttle body, clean leaves and gunk and crap off the head, and cap off the rail thing with 6 bolts... then get an 80.5" belt and remove the smog pump (useless anyways)