Runaway Manco Dingo IX

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The maiden voyage was mostly a success, took it out, road it around a bit I could smell the belt after I got done riding it but maybe that's normal I don't know. Was riding it then it wouldn't go anymore, the belt has definitely had it. Wasn't too difficult to push it back about 1000 feet from where it stopped, I don't know what size or type of belt to get for it, if anyone happens to know I'd appreciate the insight. I am gonna take the belt off and try to get any info from it that I can to just order a new one but first I will attach a photo of the current belt on it, I'm not even sure it's the right belt for it, but I don't have much experience with torque converters so maybe someone can tell me.


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Well, figured out the belt is the original Manco belt what's on it is, Manco 6814 DF, with other numbers I can't make out except for, 3699 and 354. From what I can see the belt is flat on one side and a V shape on the other side, is it not supposed to have both sides symmetrical in a V shape or no? Also the belt is 33" Long on the outside using a sewing tape measure. It is about 1/16" short of 7/8" Wide. Supposedly from what I find the model number of belt that will work is 203784 if anyone can confirm that or not I would appreciate it.


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From your pictures, which aren't very good, I can't tell if you have a 30 or a 40 series torque converter. Maybe you already know. The numbers on the used belt mean nothing. Here is what's needed to get the correct belt. 1st, is it a 30 or 40.
2nd, the diameter of the driven clutch, in inches. If it's a 30, it will be either 6 or 7 inches. If it's a 40 it will most likely be 8 inches. Lastly, the distance between the center of the driver ( the crankshaft ) and the center of the driven clutch.
Go Power Sports has a table on their website that tells you exactly which belt you need. Other vendors may also have it. It's all determined by the diameter of the driven clutch and the distance between the two centers.
 

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Looking closer at the driver, you have a 40 series.
I didn't see anything on it that said 30 or 40 series, it does say Comet industries and the picture is not very good I took it just tonight in the dark, I'll get better pictures of it tomorrow. As for the diameter I'll measure and get back to you.
 

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From your pictures, which aren't very good, I can't tell if you have a 30 or a 40 series torque converter. Maybe you already know. The numbers on the used belt mean nothing. Here is what's needed to get the correct belt. 1st, is it a 30 or 40.
2nd, the diameter of the driven clutch, in inches. If it's a 30, it will be either 6 or 7 inches. If it's a 40 it will most likely be 8 inches. Lastly, the distance between the center of the driver ( the crankshaft ) and the center of the driven clutch.
Go Power Sports has a table on their website that tells you exactly which belt you need. Other vendors may also have it. It's all determined by the diameter of the driven clutch and the distance between the two centers.
Okay, so I'm not sure which one is the driven clutch, is it the one that's not attached to the engine, if so that one is just barely under 8" diameter, the other one I measured the circumference and converted that to diameter and it measures 5.73". Now the center shaft measurement from the center of each measures approximately 8.5". Hope this helps.
 

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I didn't see anything on it that said 30 or 40 series, it does say Comet industries and the picture is not very good I took it just tonight in the dark, I'll get better pictures of it tomorrow. As for the diameter I'll measure and get back to you.
They don't post a # on them, but you definitely have a 40 series. The belt that you show in a few posts earlier doesn't look even close to correct. A 40 series belt is
3/4" wide on the outside, and is tapered evenly on both sides. Get on the GPS website and find the table I referred to. It will be in the go kart parts section under torque converter belts. Once you find it, it will be very easy to figure which one you need. I am not guessing when I say that yours is a 40 series. I have one myself on one of my karts. I just had not taken the time to look at your picture very closely. The driver is a 40 unmistakably, and the way the driven is flipped around backwards is very common. Buy the new belt, and you'll be ready to go.
 

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Yes, the driven clutch is the one NOT on the engine. The one on the engine is the driver. So you have an 8" driven. The most common size for a 40. When you find the belt table, you will see that the increments from one size to the next are quiet specific on the center to center demention.
 

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Yes, the driven clutch is the one NOT on the engine. The one on the engine is the driver. So you have an 8" driven. The most common size for a 40. When you find the belt table, you will see that the increments from one size to the next are quiet specific on the center to center demention.
From what I can tell on the chart, I need the one with the part number 203784 unless I read this chart incorrectly.

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Ordered a comet belt for it, it'll be here next week can't wait to rip it around more. I saw on YouTube other people putting performance carbs on their go karts and I would like to do the same, I believe from the research I did, I need a PWK 34 carburetor correct me if I'm wrong, anyone have suggestions for a cheap carb to put on my motor?
 

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In post # 28 you said the center to center demention was approximately 8.5". You ordered a belt that is for a 7-7/8 center to center. Hope your first measurement was wrong.
 

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In post # 28 you said the center to center demention was approximately 8.5". You ordered a belt that is for a 7-7/8 center to center. Hope your first measurement was wrong.
Possibly, I was using a flexible sewing tape measure to measure, and the belt that came off measured 33" on the outside of it, worst case it's coming from Amazon free return.
 

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In post # 30 I tried to explain to you that the increments of center to center were quite specific. There is one for 7-7/8, 8-3/8, and 8-5/8. Do you not own a simple tape measure or hard metal ruler. And know how to read it. A fabric or roll- up sewing tape isn't going to be precise enough. That's why the differences are so closely calibrated. It matters in what works, and what doesn't.
 

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In post # 30 I tried to explain to you that the increments of center to center were quite specific. There is one for 7-7/8, 8-3/8, and 8-5/8. Do you not own a simple tape measure or hard metal ruler. And know how to read it. A fabric or roll- up sewing tape isn't going to be precise enough. That's why the differences are so closely calibrated. It matters in what works, and what doesn't.
I own multiple tape measures, however in my experience measuring at an angle usually produces a longer measurement than one straight across due to the extended distance, I measured it again and it looks like 8 3/16" but I measured it in the dark again.
 
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