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Bluethunder3320

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sweet!

well go tell your parents, with 20 bucks, you can turn that tractor i posted earlier^^^ into this


took me about 4-5 hours
 

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that turned out great! i bet they would say "you still don't need a riding mower..." LOL, i can try though ;)
 

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Lol and you can always use it as a go kart.


I cant wait to get mowing with it... Gonna be so much easier than the little honda pushmower!
 

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I really think you'll LOVE mig. If you think your flux core is low splatter right now, you'll be in love with it. You can easily weld without gloves and not have to worry about sparks burning your hands. I want to see some aluminum welding done now.
 

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LOL

i have used MIG before (like once or twice) and its great! it sounds cooler, and if you want to fill a little hole in you weld, go ahead, no need to get the wire brush out! i also find MIG is a good bit easier to control than flux core. i think i will still need gloves, or i will need to re-work my technique, i hold the gun by the handle, and rest the tube on my finger to control it, sometimes my hand gets HOT!

i can't wait to try aluminum, just need to find money for a gas bottle (i may rent one just to try it out).
 

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I don't think you'll need them unless you do tons of welding, and that's the only time I've needed them because I didn't want to get sunburnt. That's how I weld too. Right hand on the trigger and left hand under the bend of the nozzle.
 

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hmm, well like i said, i will have to see how mig works out. i guess i don't remember my hands getting hot the few times i used mig, but they certainly do when i'm using facw!
 

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I can't wait to see what kind of welds you can crank out with this new machine!
 

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me too! i ran some 1/4", it got really hot! did not appear to be welded on both sides, but if i make the gap a bit bigger ans slow down i'm sure i can achieve that! (i was so excited to use the new machine i wasn't quite focused on technique that much! :D). the welds came out pretty good, lots of filler in them, although there isn't necessarily a stack of dimes look, its still a god weld! its not like the stack of dimes pattern doesn't add strength to the weld, it jsut looks cool :cool:.

i also did some welds on 14ga metal (just ran a bead, didn't connect two metals) that weld came out great (other than some burn through at the end) and looked exactly like i had welded both sides.:2guns:

i also found the factor settings for voltage, wfs, roller tension, etc to be spot on! has a big fan in the back too!:wai:

i suppose if i was really picky i could say the gun is a bit stiff, but nothing i can't deal with, and considering how awesome the machine is, doesn't matter to me one bit!

:idea2: maybe i will go get some pics of what i did yesterday (too hot today almost 90 degrease F, and almost 90 percent humidity! :ack2:)

hopefully my old welder will sell soon.
 

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HAHAHA, as soon as i said,

hopefully my old welder will sell soon.

i loged out, checked my E-mail, guess what? i hope this sale can work out! :auto:

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heres some pics,

- spool gun :drool5:
- a cool little metal thickness measurer that they gave me
- the huge outlet :devil2:, my new welder! :D
- some welds on 1/4" not too pretty but there strong!
- what i have to work with for starting the mini bike (that is if the push start doesn't work)
- the part on my press that i must replace (the shaft the chuck is on, not the chuck).
 

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Oh for sheet metal it is better to spot weld and stagger the welds for less distortion and less burn through....Are you running 120v or 220v???
 

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How much does it say it can do in one pass? It looks like it does 1/4" with ease.
 

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with 0.035 solid wire, 75/25 argon/co2 it claims to be able to weld 3/8" in a single pass, but multi-passes and special technique may be required for certain joint designs.

when i was looking for welders one thing i would do is look at the manual and find the chart that tells which settings to use, looking at that chart can give you a good idea of what to expect. from looking at that the 210 can do 1/4" no problem, but the 187 may have a bit of trouble with 1/4" (even though the 210 is advertised to weld 3/8", and the 187 is advertised to weld 5/16")

tell you the truth, i would have considered the 140 much more, but it can only weld 1/4" with flux core wire and multi passes, so it would be a pain to weld 1/4", and sometimes you can't really use multi-passes.

i just did some more welding, tried some more 1/4", 14ga, and 1/8" it did amazing on the 1/8" and 14ga, looking like i welded on both sides with a huge signature, a decent bead, and you could tell the bead had melted into the base metal. it also did the 1/4" great, just like the pics i posted. as usual the flux core wire makes a good bead a bit more difficult, can't wait to get a gas bottle!

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torque ranger, i am familiar with that technique and i agree it works nicely for thin sheet, but how exactly is mentioning that relevant? are you talking about the 14ga tube? i wouldn't consider 14ga thin enough to want to use the technique you mentioned, are you suggesting i may help with the burn though? all i need to stop that is pick up my travel speed. i'm running 230v :D

EDIT: i called the guy who asked about my welder, he is coming tomorrow at 10:00 AM, hope fully i can get the price i'm asking (which is already pretty low!)
 

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YES! sold the welder! now i have to wait for the welding shop to open and then go find out how big of a bottle $150 will get me. :wai:
 

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I think the biggest you can get is a 32cuf bottle... I might be wrong but not sure because i have the big bottle for my torch and no one will refills them without having them under contract because i am not a business..
 

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duty cycle is pretty easy, its a percentage out of 10 min you can weld for at that specific setting before you risk damaging the internal components of the welder, for example:

a 20% duty cycle at 200A would mean you can weld for 2 min straight at 200A until you must wait 8 min for the machine to cool down.

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This welder is great! definitely some over kill for my needs, but i don't have a problem with that, it was worth the money, i'm not going to look back one bit.

the machine has an excellent duty cycle for anything i could possibly do, plus the machine has an thermal overload switch. so if i go crazy welding at max output it will shut itself off before anything really bad happens, but i don't plan to try that. besides it should be nearly 100% for mig welding 14ga.

here ya go,
http://www.hobartwelders.com/om/6digit/o227978d_hob.pdf

This chart is in the manual, but i pulled it out for you, :thumbsup:
 

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I think the biggest you can get is a 32cuf bottle... I might be wrong but not sure because i have the big bottle for my torch and no one will refills them without having them under contract because i am not a business..

Hmmm, thats weird, i'll be sure that they will let me refill whatever i get, i would like an 80cf, but i kinda doubt i can get one of those, i will probably leave with a 40cf, then upgrade later if i find i go through it too fast.
 

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duty cycle is pretty easy, its a percentage out of 10 min you can weld for at that specific setting before you risk damaging the internal components of the welder, for example:

a 20% duty cycle at 200A would mean you can weld for 2 min straight at 200A until you must wait 8 min for the machine to cool down.

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This welder is great! definitely some over kill for my needs, but i don't have a problem with that, it was worth the money, i'm not going to look back one bit.

the machine has an excellent duty cycle for anything i could possibly do, plus the machine has an thermal overload switch. so if i go crazy welding at max output it will shut itself off before anything really bad happens, but i don't plan to try that. besides it should be nearly 100% for mig welding 14ga.

here ya go,
http://www.hobartwelders.com/om/6digit/o227978d_hob.pdf

This chart is in the manual, but i pulled it out for you, :thumbsup:


I hate the Hobart manual after reading the how make a proper bead lol.. I have been taught the same pattern for 22 yrs and that is doing small circles in order to create the proper stacked dime effect .. Which to me is what a bead is suppose to look like to me...
 

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LOL, i'm sure he method they list can get the some results. i too use the circles method :D, works good, although this has made me want to try the way the manual says to do it, hmm....
 
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