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After another Fire extinguisher clamp/bracket thingy broke this weekend l decided i need something mo bedder. The standard 2# bracket that has been around forever, just doesnt work in anything other than a highyway vehicle. So the engineerin department went to work.
I learned decades ago that any machine that uses fire and explosive fuel needs a fire extinguisher.
This poor guy taught me how important that is.
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That was a long time ago and a whole different "motor sport" but the basic elements are the same. Fire is scary! This event was so traumatic l remember often. (Thats BS l dont remember much)
In a vehice where the surface it traverses might get bumpy, it is nice to have things withstand off road abuse and be quick and easy to deploy.
With those requirements Engineering stole this eerr ahhh l mean designed this:
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This thing is a flash of genius, not only does the saddle fit the FE but can be customized to hold your thermos, Whiskey bottle or any beveradge containment vessle. The possibilites are endless! Order now before the stampeed!
 

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Todays topic on Hack's garage, chain lube! Purdy friggen exciting huh?
l see a lot of posts off road stuff here. That is probably the single worst environment for a chain to exist in. Desert moon dust here makes an excellent grindinh compound it has the grit of talcum powder and the abrasiveness pumice.
the problem is what is the best way to mitigate the wear in this nasty environment?
Oil, grease, spary even wax products attract dirt and turn it into grinding paste.
The majority just gets thrown off anyway and makes a bigger mess evertwhere.
Its obvious to me that the grinding powewder sticking to moving parts is causing premarure wear. Switching to dry gonna make it worse? The lack of a more substancal
lube gunna make it worse or mo bedder?
Chain is a wear item, l get that. This chain really takes a beating it should be a #50 chain but that aint happening. Just trying to get a little mo outta dem.
I'm gunna try dry lube. Anyone tried it? Lets hear the good,bad and ugly!
 

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I'm gunna try dry lube. Anyone tried it? Lets hear the good,bad and ugly!
I use it sometimes. I prefer to use regular oil and clean when needed. I just dont feel like the chain is happy with dry lube. I always feel a few links that are jammed up after the dry stuff.

EDIT: Hmmm.. I wonder.. The minibike gets almost exclusively, dry spray. Just yesterday I found a cracked/mostly missing bearing inside the roller. So thats something to consider I guess.

Also, I feel like the dirt and junk that DOES get in there, how well will the dry lube, lube THAT? If its caked in dirt and dust, I think oil would protect the chain a little?
 

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I use it sometimes. I prefer to use regular oil and clean when needed. I just dont feel like the chain is happy with dry lube. I always feel a few links that are jammed up after the dry stuff.

EDIT: Hmmm.. I wonder.. The minibike gets almost exclusively, dry spray. Just yesterday I found a cracked/mostly missing bearing inside the roller. So thats something to consider I guess.

Also, I feel like the dirt and junk that DOES get in there, how well will the dry lube, lube THAT? If its caked in dirt and dust, I think oil would protect the chain a little?

Obviously oil is gonna be a better lube than dry or no lube. The down side is the dirt attraction and keeping it on the chain and not on the surrounding territory.
there are recipes out there for wax/oil lubes, but they don't seem much better than the commercial stuff.
The power and weight are pushing this chain to the limit of its rating. That and the dirt
combine to wear the chain quickly.
So the cleaning/inspection routine frequency should happen more often.
I guess thats about all l can do.


 

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Your pulling our chain.

No way thats the same link count. Show both ends you joker. 😆

How about a lateral bend test. Like this.

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Yeah i'm yanking yer chain.
i was surprized at the stretch also.
So the length increased by approximately 2 inches, that amounts to about .042" / link.
l don't see the ends in your pic either. You trying to fool us?
Maybe l should invest in a 100ft reel of the shyt?
 

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Todays topic on Hack's garage, chain lube! Purdy friggen exciting huh?
l see a lot of posts off road stuff here. That is probably the single worst environment for a chain to exist in. Desert moon dust here makes an excellent grindinh compound it has the grit of talcum powder and the abrasiveness pumice.
the problem is what is the best way to mitigate the wear in this nasty environment?
Oil, grease, spary even wax products attract dirt and turn it into grinding paste.
The majority just gets thrown off anyway and makes a bigger mess evertwhere.
Its obvious to me that the grinding powewder sticking to moving parts is causing premarure wear. Switching to dry gonna make it worse? The lack of a more substancal
lube gunna make it worse or mo bedder?
Chain is a wear item, l get that. This chain really takes a beating it should be a #50 chain but that aint happening. Just trying to get a little mo outta dem.
I'm gunna try dry lube. Anyone tried it? Lets hear the good,bad and ugly!

Maybe we/you should change the thread title to Hack’s Garage (always liked laboratory though)? I entertain no thoughts that it’s solely based on the Stoopid or will ever return to that. 😁

What about enclosed chains? Common feature in step-through Honda murdersickles and various European bikes under 150cc. Harley offered it on some bikes in 1984(?) allegedly.

Anyway, the enclosure could either be sealed to permit a constant oil bath for the chain or just prevent dirt and debris from contacting the chain. I think some had an automatic chain oiler akin to a chainsaw. The enclosure may make chain inspection and maintenance a hassle but the chain and sprockets last a looong time. I like the idea and it’s still a thing on modern agricultural motorcycles.

Edit: maintenance is anathema to modern hew-mons.
 
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