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Those are some cool handguns Spark!

Nice Sig Kartorbust! Proven driver with NAVY SEALS for a long time.
It was a cost difference of a few dollars between the Beretta and Sig back then. I think they chose poorly, the P226 is superior to the 92, I will die on this hill.
 

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I like how this thread derailed into a free-for-all 🔫 thread. Sorry Grizz, I tried to help. 😁

Anyone else use Palmetto State Armory for their purchases?

Sure. Got a Dagger Compact. Bought in two assemblies on a July 4th sale; the pew pew part and the slide/barrel assy. I'm using Glock mags in it. Great quality.
 

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The derail is fine Hellion. Maybe I'll change the thread to an all out pew-pew thread. Just somewhere to post our 2nd Amendment enthusiasm.

Yep, I've used PSA a lot. Ammo, built a few AR's off there site minus the lowers(I buy those local in person) and a bunch of accessories and sights. Best in the business IMO for online firearm related shyt.

Hellion, I've been wanting to build a Dagger, hear great things about them. Pretty much a Glock clone. Ruger recently came out with a Glock clone. Hearing great things about that as well. I think a Glock19 clone. It takes Glock mags like the Dagger.
 
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Didn't care for Glock prices and perhaps the Glock "philosophy". Glad to see the patent has expired and the resultant explosion of Glock clones.

On the price aversion the way I see it is, Glock is supposed to be the AK of pistols and I think the concept is, definitely. See you have an easily mass-produced receiver made of "cheap" plassstic, a trigger group which is largely made of stamped steel parts, and then a fancy, more costly barrel and slide. Cheap or inexpensive to make, but they charge a retail price that does not indicate the economy of the design (shrugs).

Everyone should have a Nine I think and buying direct from the manufacturer (PSA) is pretty neat.
 
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I was thinking about getting one of their Daggers with a compensator. But after handling a handful of Glocks, I just didn't like it.
 

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For our long barrel comparison and to expand on what Hellion just said about price marketing vs quality.

I picked up a Ruger American in 7.62x39.
Im super pleased with it. The furniture is that polymer stuff but it makes it worry free as far as an behind the truck bench seat rifle. Its light to carry and I've found it absorbs the recoil better than wood.

The trigger pull was easily fixed with a spring change. The ones in click pens work beautifully. It will function flawlessly even with out the spring at all. I tried it. But i felt better about it with at least the pen one in there.

The bolt action was smooth but had a zipper sound to it. Some tooth paste and a few hundred strokes polished it up to butter.

The best part it the barrel is floating. And accurate.
I was ringing a plate out at 800yrds. One after the other.
7.62 ballistics charts stop before that distance.

Ruger put the quality in the barrel.

You can even get (rare) a mag well adaptor to use AK mags.
 

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I had Glock 27 back in the day, only Glock I've owned. I ended up replacing with my XDS because it was thinner and easier to carry concealed. Both are just as accurate.

WTR., the Ruger American is a great rifle. Ruger just needs to do a better job on the bolt machining. No biggie for us, but the average gun owner won't think of that stuff. The 10/22 Ruger is the best .22 rifle and I've owned plenty. A little work on polishing the bolt, the thing is butter smooth. But I'm a nerd on bolt polishing and make all my firearms buttery smooth. :cheers2: It's bourbon time here in Michigan.
 

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I was thinking about getting one of their Daggers with a compensator. But after handling a handful of Glocks, I just didn't like it.

The Dagger exchanges fire control parts, barrel and slide with a Glock 19 as far as I know, but the Dagger frame is configured differently and has more of a "palm swell" and a slimmer profile. It's also designed to fit lower in the hand (link below shows the low cut at the base of the trigger guard). It's different strokes for different folks so I don't think it's quite fair to judge a Dagger by handling a Glock. I just wanted a cheap "Glock" to play with and the Dagger name is cool, it shares its name with a movie pew pew from a Shakespearean movie...

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I seem to be buying stuff just for analysis as of late. I'm not one of those guys who has to have the perfect pew pew with the perfect grip/perfect ergonomics. I just try to learn to use it as-is and adapt myself to the thing (if I can), not the other way around. As a soldier for example, you're given a one-size-fits-all weapon *at least at one time you were; now there's telescoping stocks and such, but the concept remains. You just try to get used to it and then it becomes what you're used to. Bonus points if you can chute it well.

 

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Bingo Hellion, whatever you get comfortable with and learn to shoot. The best firearm is the one you've trained with, shot thousands of rounds through, learned its ins and outs, field stripped and cleaned, rinse and repeat.

When I was a youngen, I was at a gun club with a boss of mine. Picked up my first shotgun a Rem 870 Express. We were in the clubhouse with all the regulars. This one guy, super mouthy about how great he was at trap shooting. He was bragging about his new $5000 Italian over/under. Wish I could remember the model. I got matched up with first round. He laughed at my 870. I went 25 for 25 and he shot horrible. He was so pissed blaming his shotgun, choice of rounds and everything but himself.
 

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Bingo Hellion, whatever you get comfortable with and learn to shoot. The best firearm is the one you've trained with, shot thousands of rounds through, learned its ins and outs, field stripped and cleaned, rinse and repeat.

When I was a youngen, I was at a gun club with a boss of mine. Picked up my first shotgun a Rem 870 Express. We were in the clubhouse with all the regulars. This one guy, super mouthy about how great he was at trap shooting. He was bragging about his new $5000 Italian over/under. Wish I could remember the model. I got matched up with first round. He laughed at my 870. I went 25 for 25 and he shot horrible. He was so pissed blaming his shotgun, choice of rounds and everything but himself.
You stole my story.

We bought a 2 axis clay chucker and take it to the range. They have a wide area stall. It works perfect. We invite people to shoot with us. Not quite trap, not quite skeet. Its fun. 2 up, 25 in your pocket. Left shooter gets 2 birds at the button pushers discretion. No "pull". Just be ready. Then right shooter will get 2 birds. Some times a buddy will bring a second thrower. Then we set it up as a cross throw.
I use a mossy 500 and shoot 22+/25 consistently.
Some of the guys bring their expensive benelli's. Same story.
I ve had FTF or FTE while 2 birds in the air , cleared and reloaded and still got at least one bird.
I know that mossy well.
 

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Retiring my Sig P365 and Springfield XDS .40

Back to the original query: I think the answer is simple, buy either one of these in nein milluh-metuh and carry on contented.

No need to reinvent the wheel. Problem is, we all like the new and flashy, the different, the trendy. We are image conscious just like the womenfolk…
 

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I have always like the simple reliability or double action revolvers. No need to remember which gun I'm carrying, no need to remember whether I chambered a round or not. Safety on or off? Is this one DA, or do I need to pull the hammer under stress. I shoot a lot, and I shoot a good variety of guns, mine and not mine. I do quite a bit of simple smithing for friends and range members. Mostly, we carry 22LR revolvers aroung the home turf, snakeshot. I shoot most accurately with a Browning Buckmark, but I rarely carry it. It wont cycle snakeshot, and not enough power for protection.
The moral of this story: I carry a snubby revolver.
 

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Back to the original query: I think the answer is simple, buy either one of these in nein milluh-metuh and carry on contented.

No need to reinvent the wheel. Problem is, we all like the new and flashy, the different, the trendy. We are image conscious just like the womenfolk…

I get it. Lol. I'm just retiring these as my go to EDC. I'm looking for more capacity without sacrificing concealability. I'm closing my options down and the Springfield Hell Cat Pro is looking more and more like my pick. It is slightly bigger then my XDS, 3.7" barrel compared to my XDS at 3.3". It has a 15 round capacity and full size grip. I had the XDS in 9mm also but only gave it 1 more round then my .40. Sold the 9mm my nephew. I have the XDM which is a full size version of the XDS with a full frame, 4.5" barrel and a 20 round mag capacity. That thing as tack driver and I keep that as my home defense, OWB carry.
 
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