Kart Rods

[Kelly Wood]

All good ideas!

Maybe, depending on the area of the race, (like a heavy machinery junkyard) maybe a race for the flags, get flag 1 and put it in your flag holder on the kart, then get back to the finish line with it... all the while, folks are chasing you down trying to take that same flag and take it to the line themselves. Then, once flag 1 is returned to the line and only once its there, can they all turn back to find flag 2.... lather, rinse, repeat.

The flags are all around the course and placed by a non racer. You must stay on course until you see a flag or capture it, then you get back anyway you can... once on your way again for the 2nd, you must again, stay on course until you see or find it, then, lather, rinse, repeat until 3 to 5 flags are at home plate. (I just made this up while typing btw) Yea, there's all kinds of holes in this story but maybe it could work. With this approach, you combine a race (gotta complete X number of laps reguardless) with a hunting game, a battle for a flag (e.g. racers sneak up on each other and snag their flag) and some close action... thus, not exactly about speed but skill as well.

Or what Desertduler suggested, A course with punch cards! Each lap you must stop and get the card punched or something... the one wiith the most laps in a timed event wins.

I'm sure there's a million ideas out there for this.

I'd honestly love to shoot someone while driving though.

 

[machinist@large]

Easy, big guy.........

I'd honestly love to shoot someone while driving though.

Now, now; road rage only provides momentary satisfaction, and gets you talked about in really bad ways......... (not to mention, if you're going for maximum satisfaction it gonna get messy).

 

[DJEEPER]

I LOVE that kart, Kelly. Reminds me of the old WWII Jeep BellyFlopper. Maybe yours can carry the nickname "Spinepopper" or something, i dunno

Awesome looking build though.

 

[MKII420]

sounds like my kind of place!

i created an account over at vintagekarts and got flamed at for using a vintage racing frame as a base for my "kart rod"..

oh well, but i just registered..

Kelly, i sent an email to you but it got kicked back..

 

[Kelly Wood]

I had changed my email address, it's now kawood100@gmail.com

Registered where?

Yea, I"m a participant over there too... be careful what you use (or trash)... or just don't tell them.

Here's my vintage ride resto... a really old bug stinger fun kart, turned racer. Complete with the hands wheels, hurst airhart 150 brakes, etc..... MUA HA HA HA

Kelly

 

[Remy99]

Dig the old school look

 

[Kelly Wood]

Thanks!

Ok, so moving on here.

Today was a day to take my daughter to get her braces adjusted so I ended up home, on a nice day... early.

I figured I'd work on something that's been bothering me for a very long time.

Perhaps someone here has a better idea... meaning, can you buy what I just made? Reason is: I've looked around.... and I must be a dumb MO^&*$R#*(#@) F &*($#@ or they just don't make these. If they don't, why the H### not?

Anyway, I've got this growing pile of old school 5" kart wheels. You know, the little 4 bolt ones that, well, they're just older ones. They make great old school wheels if done up right. See PIC 1.

Problem is, how does one get thhem on a 1" live axle? That was my problem.

So, a little trip to the back 40 finds these dune buggy wheels that I'd never use, but on them were these standard 4 Lug hubs for a 1" axle.

Hm.

With grinder, drill... and various measuring techniques, I turned one of them (pic 2) into the little one in pic 3.

And it worked. Not bad if I do say so myself. No drill press, just good old fashioned bench engineering. I'll do the other one tomorrow... but my question is: Don't they make these?

So, pic 4 shows the thing mounted (flat black paint is still wet) and sitting sideways (cause it isn't mounted yet) the tank I'll use on Brown Thunder.

Next, pic 5 shows another proposed addition to Sarge. It's a broken handle from a 1957 Mercury outboard motor control... Nice gunner handle eh? Just don't know where to mount it just yet.

And lastly, a pile of kartrods... LOL

Thanks for looking.

Kelly

 

[machinist@large]

Perhaps someone here has a better idea... meaning, can you buy what I just made? Reason is: I've looked around.... and I must be a dumb MO^&*$R#*(#@) F &*($#@ or they just don't make these. If they don't, why the H### not?

Anyway, I've got this growing pile of old school 5" kart wheels. You know, the little 4 bolt ones that, well, they're just older ones. They make great old school wheels if done up right. See PIC 1.

Problem is, how does one get thhem on a 1" live axle? That was my problem.

So, a little trip to the back 40 finds these dune buggy wheels that I'd never use, but on them were these standard 4 Lug hubs for a 1" axle.

Hm.

With grinder, drill... and various measuring techniques, I turned one of them (pic 2) into the little one in pic 3.

And it worked. Not bad if I do say so myself. No drill press, just good old fashioned bench engineering. I'll do the other one tomorrow... but my question is: Don't they make these?

So, pic 4 shows the thing mounted (flat black paint is still wet) and sitting sideways (cause it isn't mounted yet) the tank I'll use on Brown Thunder.

Next, pic 5 shows another proposed addition to Sarge. It's a broken handle from a 1957 Mercury outboard motor control... Nice gunner handle eh? Just don't know where to mount it just yet.

And lastly, a pile of kartrods... LOL

Thanks for looking.

Kelly

That's a good question. It looks like they turned out pretty well; how long did it take you if you don't mind my asking?

Pat

 

[Kelly Wood]

Thanks. Welp... one of them turned out well. I only did one to see if I could do it.

I'd say I lucked out so far. The one is straight and will work... now if I can repeat the performance, by hand.

Took about 1 hour to get one done with a grinder, a cutoff wheel, a vise and a drill... and a sharpy.... and compass.

 

[DaiSan76]

What is the pattern? 4 x 2 13/16" are available at BMI and Northern Tool.

 

[Kelly Wood]

yea, I've seen them... but not with the END, thus, more work. One set screw will not hold a rear wheel for long.

Did that make sense? The axles are 1" with a 3/4" step. Thus, these types of hubs will work, but you'd need another collar to hold them from sliding, then possibly something else. Dunno yet. I'm trying for a 1 piece thing, not 3.

 

[DaiSan76]

yea, I've seen them... but not with the END, thus, more work. One set screw will not hold a rear wheel for long.

Did that make sense? The axles are 1" with a 3/4" step. Thus, these types of hubs will work, but you'd need another collar to hold them from sliding, then possibly something else. Dunno yet. I'm trying for a 1 piece thing, not 3.

I used those for a year and they never slipped. I just had to loctite the grub screws.

 

[Kelly Wood]

... and... more to the point... it's a kart rod. It's not about new parts. It's about making something with what you have. The original hot rod building technique. If I just went & bought all new stuff, heck, I'm sure it'd go together well. What fun is that? What kind of challenge is it to just follow some goofy instruction set and end up with something everyone else has?

It's not.

Real Hot rods don't come in kits.

Keep chiming in, this is fun.

 

[DaiSan76]

Perhaps someone here has a better idea... meaning, can you buy what I just made? Reason is: I've looked around.... and I must be a dumb MO^&*$R#*(#@) F &*($#@ or they just don't make these. If they don't, why the H### not?
Kelly

... and... more to the point... it's a kart rod. It's not about new parts. It's about making something with what you have. The original hot rod building technique. If I just went & bought all new stuff, heck, I'm sure it'd go together well. What fun is that? What kind of challenge is it to just follow some goofy instruction set and end up with something everyone else has?

It's not.

Well, you did ask if you could buy a hub that would work with your wheels.

 

[Kelly Wood]

Correct. I stand corrected. It would work and I appreciate the info. Guess I just don't want to buy something new when I can make it out of crap I have laying around.

But that's what keeps this interesting. Both for me, and I suspect others.

Onward! My news interview is in 72 hours with these suckers.

 

[Kelly Wood]

Now, now; road rage only provides momentary satisfaction, and gets you talked about in really bad ways......... (not to mention, if you're going for maximum satisfaction it gonna get messy).

See that gunners handle? Guess what I'm gonna do with it!

 

[machinist@large]

Grrrrrrr!!!!!

See that gunners handle? Guess what I'm gonna do with it!

:toetap05:

Great!!! Just keep us in suspense, why don't ya!!! (We see what kind of guy you really are........)

Just kidding!!! Pat

 

[landuse]

I just love the pile of kart rods. You don't see that every day...

 

[Kelly Wood]

AH, the weekend is here and I"m typing this from work.

Tomorrow is scouting day and time to find a suitable location to run for this news interview. They told me to pick the spot.. and here's peek of numerous locations I'll be scouting out tomorrow. It's just a tiny pic of what I've found... Among them, numerous industrial settings, railroad tracks, even one of them abandoned military housing projects from the 50's. Google earth rules.

More soon!

 

[Kelly Wood]

Small update:

During lunch today, I hit a few auto parts stores for those little 2" stick on blind spot mirrors... why?

With some pliers, chicken wire, then paint... etc... you get Sarge's headlights.

I had to add another layer of unobtanium double sided tape, but they're on...

This is a good place for a stick up!