Issue with chain rubbing torque converter

[Ryanhodge2715]

I unplugged kill switch an nothing but it has a brand new spark plug on it

 

[Ryanhodge2715]

You guys please bare with me an guide me one step at a time I’ll take this thing apart fully if need be

 

[Ryanhodge2715]

My step dad was leaning towards saying the coil has gone bad ima try to find videos on where an what that is an pull it off my broke axel cart an see

 

[Rat]

This is realllly outta my league now I’m so broke I can’t afford to pay no one to fix it feeling a little helpless at this point took a picture from each side but then wires look like a mess that’s for sure but there is so much going on I doubt y’all can guide me much

I've seen and repaired far worse including having to make an entire main harness for a couple motorcycles.

Easiest way to get at what you want to do is remove the shroud and pull the wire attached to the ignition coil... there should only be one, and it runs the kill. It is also not uncommon for it to get grazed by the flywheel and become grounded out (no spark)

Whether or not it is damaged is irrelevant at this point, removing that wire and attempting to start the engine will tell you...

1. No spark at all, then coil is probably bad

2. Weak spark, then the plug is dirty or bad

3. Good spark, then the issue is somewhere along the kill switch wire, or in the switch itself

I see an electric starter so assuming it's in good order, if you can't monitor the plug and turn the key at the same time just stick a screwdriver in the 2 large posts of the solenoid to roll the engine without the shroud and recoil on.

( It will throw a nasty spark if the battery is well charged and this is normal of bridging the solenoid )

 

[Rat]

My step dad was leaning towards saying the coil has gone bad ima try to find videos on where an what that is an pull it off my broke axel cart an see

I said the same thing was a possibility as fornthe ignition coil location... it's under the shroud and recoil between the carburetor and the flywheel.

The fact you don't know that tells me you never checked coil gap

 

[Ryanhodge2715]

Yea man I know nothing about engines AT ALL these are the first things I’ve ever bought.

So I took that cover off an an ended up holding my finger to spark plug I do have a spark now idk if maybe somthing fixed itself or maybe I just didn’t see the spark because I didn’t try putting my finger on it to Check the first time. An I didn’t up plug anything other that a couple wires that are around the bolt that holds the cover.

 

[Rat]

Yea man I know nothing about engines AT ALL these are the first things I’ve ever bought.

So I took that cover off an an ended up holding my finger to spark plug I do have a spark now idk if maybe somthing fixed itself or maybe I just didn’t see the spark because I didn’t try putting my finger on it to Check the first time. An I didn’t up plug anything other that a couple wires that are around the bolt that holds the cover.

One of those two rings goes to the kill switch I'm sure, if you ground them out (put just the cover scew in to hold them) see if you still have spark.

Seems to be the switch at this point of discovery, also how's the plug look (pic)

 

[Ryanhodge2715]

I watched a video a the guy said to unclip the plug that comes of spark plug wire a that would tell me if it’s bad wiring or a bad coil. But I didn’t actuall unhook anything like I say other that that black a green in second pic a that one black one in the first appears to be the ground coming off the coil maybe? An yea to be straight this is the FIRST motor I have ever touched or attempted to work on. I’m young an green

 

[Ryanhodge2715]

One of those two rings goes to the kill switch I'm sure, if you ground them out (put just the cover scew in to hold them) see if you still have spark.

Seems to be the switch at this point of discovery, also how's the plug look (pic)

Got damn no spark brotha

 

[Ryanhodge2715]

So the first pic is the black cord goes straight to the batter no nicks wire looks good so gotta be somewhere in the green

 

[Rat]

I watched a video a the guy said to unclip the plug that comes of spark plug wire a that would tell me if it’s bad wiring or a bad coil. But I didn’t actuall unhook anything like I say other that that black a green in second pic a that one black one in the first appears to be the ground coming off the coil maybe? An yea to be straight this is the FIRST motor I have ever touched or attempted to work on. I’m young an green

The coil is grounded where it needs to be just by being bolted to the engine alone

Got damn no spark brotha

Your kills witch is AFU or the wire leading to is is FUBAR.

Leave the cover off, test for continuity across the switch itself assuming the wires are on terminals and NOT soldered.

IF flipping the switch with no wires attached doesn't make the meter stop beeping then the switch is toast.

if it does then you need to trace the wires and find the one running back to the engine and replace it (you can getting all the needed supplies in the Walmart automotive section)

 

[Rat]

That's going to be the kill wire to the ignition coil under that sheathing.
It will be a female connector stuck on a blade sticking out if the black plastic coil body underneath not visible in the pic.

I always have a spool of 14awg auto wire, a spool of 18awg auto wire, and a dozen rolls of e-tape on hand, you just never know when something is going to need it.

 

[bob58o]

Electric start wiring is a bit more difficult. Electronics is not my forte.

Maybe these diagrams might help with something? DIY wiring makes me want to rewire everything. lol

 

[Ryanhodge2715]

Man I’m bout to **** my pants with excitement we onto somthing **** you guys are Awsome

Plug is a new one that came with gas tank, following wire I see no nicks or anything that looks alarming. But yes this way out my ball park too so gonna have to go slow I’m dumb man not sure what “AFU” or “FUBAR” means an I don’t have a bolt meter to test anything I’m guessing that’s what you mean I’m little lost

 

[Ryanhodge2715]

My cave man in the dark thinking is wondering if I’m gettin spark with those off, could I just take those off if it’s just a kill switch? I haven’t messed with batter at all idk if it just needs a charge or it’s bad so I don’t mess with any of the electric start or kill switch just turning the key cuts it off was wondering why its there to be honest

 

[Ryanhodge2715]

Yeahh I left the black on an just took the green off an I got spark so I’m thinking like you said the kill switch is bad

 

[Rat]

Man I’m bout to **** my pants with excitement we onto somthing **** you guys are Awsome

Plug is a new one that came with gas tank, following wire I see no nicks or anything that looks alarming. But yes this way out my ball park too so gonna have to go slow I’m dumb man not sure what “AFU” or “FUBAR” means an I don’t have a bolt meter to test anything I’m guessing that’s what you mean I’m little lost

AFU = all Fucƙed up
Fubar = Fucƙed up beyond all repair

Yeahh I left the black on an just took the green off an I got spark so I’m thinking like you said the kill switch is bad

Seems likely and if you leave the kill disconnected you'll need to use the choke to shut down the engine instead.

You could reconnect the wires and disconnect the switch... that will tell you if it's the switch or wire too.
My guess is the switch got water in it

 

[Ryanhodge2715]

Damn I didn’t even realize or think about that I only disconnected the green wire that seems to run to the kill switch that’s all. and now I am able to crank it without the key in it or turned… just that she is runnin!!!! Sounds like a totally new engine with muff an carb super thankful. But I’m guessing that wire must go to my ignition there is two green wires coming out up front one to kill a one to ignition. But bs aside dude y’all got no idea how happy I am thanks a million

 

[Ryanhodge2715]

But this was my thinking on my throddle cable thing I know I probably better off buying full new cable but to get by I was thinking cutting the old one where this shorter one that come with the carb stops an just splice together with this lil clamp

 

[Ryanhodge2715]

AFU = all Fucƙed up
Fubar = ****eɗ beyond all repair

Seems likely and if you leave the kill disconnected you'll need to use the choke to shut down the engine instead.

You could reconnect the wires and disconnect the switch... that will tell you if it's the switch or wire too.
My guess is the switch got water in it

Get me being younger you would thing I’d know these lingos lmao I thought those were technical terms lol