How was your day too....two?

[chancer]

If that is true about the Mi law. That is a bad law. In Ca, You are supposed to turn in found money, but if nobody claims it after a while (I think like a year) It is yours. Some guy last year found a big bag of Drug money, like 50k. The cops knew it was drug money,(who else has that kind of cash) and of course the drug dealers did not come looking for it! So he got to keep it. But they do get you on the taxes... The cops hand you your cash and a form 1099 which is like a 49% windfall profit tax.
I agree with you Crazy "too bad try and prosecute me". Even if I found the 50k I would say nothing! I am glad you called the store though, I was thinking maybe an employee dropped register money on the way to the "back room" you may have saved someones job, by calling. It was a God send for you enjoy it.

 

[Poboy kartman]

Hate me or not, it was a godsend.

Maybe He dropped it!

 

[J_Walker]

On top of that... I really don't care. Not in a mean way, but come on, someone drops that much money, and hasn't asked management at the store if it was found there? On top of that if anyone (extremely unlikely as it may be) was to attempt to prosecute me for finding money, they would have to fulfill the burden of

Meanwhile...

So I go to lowes to get a longer bolt, and washers for spacers for the black betty kart, and as I'm looking I glance down...

$1,175 sitting on the floor...



LOL. remember what you post online can be easily used in court...

 

[crazykart]

Yes it can easily be used in court. The thing about that is that they would have to first have an actual reason to suspect me, and know my name, possibly get a warrant to check my electronic devices, and trace this posting back to my ip (see where this is going?)

Just saying "hey that guy was in the store" isn't a good enough reason for suspicion of law breaking. Throw in the fact that the person probably went down more aisles then just the hardware aisle...

That's a HUGE jump to make from me being in that store on that particular day, to me being the one that found that money...

Again I'm not worried about it, not one single bit. If, and that is a HUGE if, they ever came back to me for it, the odds of being prosecuted for it, and spending any time at all in the jail system are extremely small. As it was only a little over a grand, our jails/prisons are already over double capacity up here, and they tend to only lock up violent offenders and major drug crimes now, the absolute most that would probably happen is I would be made to pay restitution over 6 months to a years time for the total amount.

Again I'm not concerned.

Remember you are innocent until proven guilty. They have to have a reasonable suspicion of illegal activity. My full name is not on this forum, so for then to track anything back to me they would, on top of having some sort of evidence to arrive at a reasonable suspicion of guikt, convince a judge to grant an all encompassing warrenty to obtain any evidence pertaining to my particular online activities and electronic devices.

Again that is a very long stretch from "hey that guy was in that store on that particular day" (along with probably 1000 other people) to "that guy found that money, here is the evidence, or reason for suspicion, grant us a warrent."

Even if a law enforcement official was to stumble upon this post... there are 93 people with my first name in this city according to the yellow pages, and probably another thousand in the county. For then to pull a warrent off of this post, and my first name on my profile alone... see where this is going?

Ok I'm done rambling on (believe me I could continue with tons or legal precidents as to why I would not have to worry)

I do respect your opinion on the fact, but it doesn't change my opinion. Thank you for your input, but I am done discussing any possible, even if slim, negative impacts.

Thank you, now have a good day.

 

[MadManAndrew]

I'm definitely not trying to judge you, just looking out for someone that may have been ignorant of the legal ramifications of their actions. If you feel confident in your actions then that's only for god (and possibly your local court) to judge whether you're right or wrong. Just an fyi though: You say that you later contacted the store and they said that nobody had come forward looking for money which pretty much puts you in the clear legally, but just for the heck of it let's say that somebody had come forward looking for what we'll assume was their entire paycheck, and that you never had called back: In most states, including Michigan, failure to make a reasonable effort to return found property (which you did by leaving the store without making management aware of your finding) is larceny, and again in most states if the property is worth more than $1000 it's a felony. Now, you have confessed your crime on this message board and let's say, although I won't, that even though Texas law only requires me to report a crime that occurred in the state of Texas, I still felt it was my moral obligation to report you since somebody out there is at the opposite end of this ordeal (having lost an entire paycheck). The detectives from your local police department would contact the forum owners and request your IP address (which 90% of forums do track), and if the owners refused, your local DA would issue a subpoena which would not require the consent of a judge but WOULD force the forum owners to turn over all info they have on you. Once they have your IP it's easy to identify you, prove you were at Lowe's on that date, and with your confession get a judge to sign a warrant for your arrest. Now, I dont know about Michigan specifically, but I do know that most people convicted of felony larceny DO serve jail time.

Obviously this doesn't apply to you if nobody came forward saying they lost it, but I just want to lay out this example so that everybody reading this understands how serious larceny is. There IS a victim, and anytime you think of committing a crime, whether you think you can get away with it or not, you need to put yourself in the victim's shoes first.

 

[landuse]

If this goes any further, I will have to shut this thread down. If you want to pm each other that's fine, but no more discussion about this topic on the open forum. OK?

 

[MadManAndrew]

No problem, boss.

 

[chancer]

Why cant we all just be happy for a fellow member or if this was face book "a friend" who got lucky. Jeeze. I think a few people are jealous that they did not find 1175 bucks. or trying to push their own goody two shoes outlook. Life happens, There are winners and losers. Yes there is a victim here, Some fool who was careless enough to:
A: carry $1175 bucks around in public and
B: Careless enough to... Just drop it!
C: Did not call the store and say "I lost my money, Did anyone find it"
Anyone with that much cash and carelessness probably did not need the money as much as it will help Crazy.
and yes Crazy was the winner:
A: struggling with bills and supporting a family.
B: made an effort to find the owner. "Hung around the store aisle for 1 1/2 hours and looked for bewildered person in the parking lot, and called the store twice"
C: He did post on this public forum that he found and kept the money. But he also posted, his efforts to find the owner. He may not know every aspect of Mi law but as a citizen (not a cop or a lawyer) he made an attempt to find the property owner.

I think all is well in this case. God blessed Crazy and the other fool learned a lesson.

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If this goes any further, I will have to shut this thread down. If you want to pm each other that's fine, but no more discussion about this topic on the open forum. OK?

Sorry I was still typing. You can delete my post if need be But I will not. Please do not close Poboys thread

 

[landuse]

No problem, boss.

It was not only directed at you, but thank you

Chancer, I will leave it

 

[crazykart]

You got it Landy, (really hope you don't mind that being called that lol)

I've said my peace, in the end I still view all as friends and fellow men in karts. No hard feelings either way.

 

[Poboy kartman]

Yeah....let's get back to cats and snakes and chickens and Californians...........JK..

There IS no topic here except whether you had a good or bad day....

 

[landuse]

You got it Landy, (really hope you don't mind that being called that lol)

I've said my peace, in the end I still view all as friends and fellow men in karts. No hard feelings either way.

No problem

 

[Poboy kartman]

DADGUMMIT! Just cleaned the throttle body and replaced the injectors on my Toyota.....The frickin gremlin is still alive.....

I'm ready to take a gun to something....can't decide between that truck or my temple!!!!!

EDIT: It just keeps getting better! !! I smelled gas....and injector #3 is leaking gas like a sieve.....ARRGHH!!!!!

 

[MadManAndrew]

DADGUMMIT! Just cleaned the throttle body and replaced the injectors on my Toyota.....The frickin gremlin is still alive.....

I'm ready to take a gun to something....can't decide between that truck or my temple!!!!!

Sometimes a target is just as gratifying without the consequences of your other options. Lol

 

[machinist@large]

Helping to get this thread back on what little broken down track it's ever had, here's some photos of the "Uhmmm" problem I had added to my plate at work this past week...

Photo #3 shows the old manual vertical lathe we had. (Was #1, but some piece of software didn't like that). If you look closely, you can see where a previous owner/owners had customized the machine to increase the size of the part's that it could swing. (The area just above the top of the chuck jaws on the main vertical column, under the cross slide bridge.)

I have a really good idea just how they did it, and I know they used the old girl to do it to herself. They took a machine that could swing a part 80" in diameter and raised it to 97"+. That's why my employer bought it back in the early 1970's.
Where
The problem isn't with the machine not doing what it was designed to do, its with what we need today. On the old Bullard, to cut taper's like what the industry uses for a really large portion of the market, the old girl needed a set of change gears to let it produce that motion. Each set of gears could cost several grand in cash plus the lead time to get them made.....

It just got to the point where it wasn't cost effective to use it any more....

So, a little over a year after the call was made to start looking for a CNC replacement, the Toshiba landed....

The largest CNC lathe we had before the Toshiba landed is a 1950's era Giddings and Lewis that was retro'ed by a California company back in the 1980's.

They managed to burn a whole lot of bridges long before they went belly up ~3 year's ago; it seems just mentioning the name on the machine can make it unsellable....

Needless to say, when you need a back up/replacement for a machine that has issues, as well as one that just needs to find a home where what it was designed to be and do is a good home, you start thinking long term.

And that's where the TUE200 comes in... We've only had it on line for several months. The machine itself came with a better than factory warranty as the first owner had the factory rebuild it after the crash, with the max extended warranty as as well.

The TUE200 can swing a larger prop over just the chuck than the older problem child CNC vertical can swing period. It can just beat the old hacked up Bullard by having been designed from the factory to swing a bit over 102", all with the versatility of CNC control.

Where the new problem stem's from is the fact that we're having to tool this beast up from scratch. Machines like this aren't usually designed with our type of work in mind...

Try this on for example; as propeller that has a blade diameter of ~80",but the customer has spec't out a 6" hub bore with a hub OD of a bit over 12" at the business end. The length of the hub can be as short as 18" in this case.

Basically, the tooling from the old CNC (let alone anything from the old manual lathe) just doesn't work on the new one. (Try changing a tire on a semi using just your jack and lug wrench from your compact car).

There's certain stuff we can use, but it's going to take some time to get there....

 

[Denny]

UUHHMMM, where's the pictures?

Denny

 

[Poboy kartman]

UUHHMMM, where's the pictures?

Denny

Yeah......poor company....they give this guy charge of all this high dollar equipment.....and he can't even work a camera.........Luv ya Pat!!!

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Ok.....so now....let's see...(this should be a different post)....on the upside....the wild snake was very sweet last night and only bit me 3 or 4 times..JK....it didn't bite at all .....

[The new software works!]

 

[OzFab]

'scuse me for rehashing a "dead" subject but, I want to relay a story I heard over the weekend:

A neighbour of a friend (the same guy I bought the engine for my kart from) recently bought a gen 2 Nissan Pathfinder; PO bought it for $2300 just before the trans died so, "my friend" picked it up for $550...

After getting it home & while investigating small issues, he had reason to remove the electric window controls from the drivers door & inside the cavity underneath was a wad of bank notes totalling $2320

Then he started searching for a replacement transmission (trans includes intergrated 4wd transfer case); he was seeing prices between $800 & $1600 until he spoke to a local mechanic who said "I have one sitting in my back yard; $150 & it's yours...

Somehow, this guy has the most uncanny luck sometimes...

 

[landuse]

I wish i could find cash in my door panels

 

[machinist@large]

Yeah......poor company....they give this guy charge of all this high dollar equipment.....and he can't even work a camera.........Luv ya Pat!!!

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Ok.....so now....let's see...(this should be a different post)....on the upside....the wild snake was very sweet last night and only bit me 3 or 4 times..JK....it didn't bite at all .....

[The new software works!]

And here I was just trying to keep you from having another thread locked down.

As for no pictures, I had to special order the raw material and some of the tooling. The extra long machinable chuck top jaw's came in late yesterday; shipping delivered them at the same time as the steel that showed up around 7:30 this morning. Still waiting for the inserted thread mill to show up.

OK: photo #4 should have been #1, but Verizon managed to loose it first time around. Those are the longest machinable chuck jaws I could get without special ordering them. I just finished machining them to handle a 16 1/4" diameter piece of steel. The step is 1/2" deep

Photo #1 show's my 32oz coffee cup (filled w/Gatorade; over 95°F in the shop today) sitting on the 10" long blank, just before I lifted into the machine. Purchasing scored in the odds and end's bar stock rack price wise, but it's almost 2" longer than what I needed, but I'm not worried. I have a machine with a CAT 50 spindle, a two speed transmission, and 30 HP to play with. The extra metal will come off.

Photo #2 show's the other part: it's 19" in diameter, 3" thick. That one is only ~1/4" oversized thickness wise, but its probably going to an even bigger headache to program than the other.

Photo #3 shows the first OP on the big one. Tomorrow is going to be interesting.

And for the record, I'm not using a CAD system to program these: it's all X,Y,Z, one key at a time at the control. This is old school. That's also one of the reasons I got the position; we only have 6 engineer's/ programmers to try and keep up with the workload of a company that has a baseline shipping target of $2,000,000.00 a month.....