Master Hack
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I can send ya 5 lbs of steel balls, if ya want.
Diamonite Electrathon America Racer
- Thread starter Functional Artist
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Functional Artist
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Hey T,
I'm open to anything that "gets the job done"
Still "baffles" me as to "why?"
...so, I'ma maybe bend a few "test pieces" with the seam in different orientations
Like, straight up ~12:00
...around 45* or ~1:30
...sideways ~3:00
...around 45* or ~4:30
...& straight down ~6:00
&
Will report...back
Functional Artist
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In the meantime/while I'ma doin' that, here is a video with lots more low speed aero info (top speed ~80KPH or ~50MPH)
The FSAE racer, in the video has
...rear wheel drive
...an inboard motor
...no traction control
...&/or stability control (same as my racers)
* Notables to watch for
Low speed aero DF @~1:10
Tire deflection @~3:15
Easy car to drive @~5:50
Aero DF not really noticeable @~6:15
Tire deflection (commentary) @~6:45
No fitted seat (commentary) @~6:57 (see why a fitted seat is...better)
Leg bruises (commentary) @~7:05 (the driver was trying to "brace" himself, with his legs, due to a non-fitted seat)
Aero interview
Nose aero @~10:00
Side pod aero @~15:00
Rear wing aero @~16:00
Diffuser aero info @~18:00
The FSAE racer, in the video has
...rear wheel drive
...an inboard motor
...no traction control
...&/or stability control (same as my racers)
* Notables to watch for
Low speed aero DF @~1:10
Tire deflection @~3:15
Easy car to drive @~5:50
Aero DF not really noticeable @~6:15
Tire deflection (commentary) @~6:45
No fitted seat (commentary) @~6:57 (see why a fitted seat is...better)
Leg bruises (commentary) @~7:05 (the driver was trying to "brace" himself, with his legs, due to a non-fitted seat)
Aero interview
Nose aero @~10:00
Side pod aero @~15:00
Rear wing aero @~16:00
Diffuser aero info @~18:00
Functional Artist
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More of "The Weave"
* Bouncin' around & try-n-ta-cover several different topics
...then, try-n-bring 'em all together, in the end
I saw this in Possom Point's Mini monster truck rebuild
...& kinda like the "molded in" seat concept
Thinkin' I might try-n-incorporate it into, the cockpit of, the monocoque, that I'ma workin' on
* Not the curvy inner fenders
...just the seat
Seems "doable"
* Bouncin' around & try-n-ta-cover several different topics
...then, try-n-bring 'em all together, in the end
I saw this in Possom Point's Mini monster truck rebuild
...& kinda like the "molded in" seat concept
Thinkin' I might try-n-incorporate it into, the cockpit of, the monocoque, that I'ma workin' on
* Not the curvy inner fenders
...just the seat
Seems "doable"
Whitetrashrocker
Inmate #952016
Jonsin for that fiberglass resin smells again?
Functional Artist
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Hey WTR,Jonsin for that fiberglass resin smells again?
Yup, kinda
If ya do fiberglassin' outside
...the smells actually ain't too bad
Functional Artist
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Hey Hellion,
I remember ya askin' about BMI Karts shipping fees (a while back)
...but/then/later, I couldn't find the thread/post again
*I'ma gettin a bit "fluffier" (technical term) than I was
...so, I had ta order a larger seat
...& I got another set of spindles too
Totals (shipping ~$20.00)
Got 'em in this box (coffee cup for size reference)
New stuff...outta the box
I remember ya askin' about BMI Karts shipping fees (a while back)
...but/then/later, I couldn't find the thread/post again
*I'ma gettin a bit "fluffier" (technical term) than I was
...so, I had ta order a larger seat
...& I got another set of spindles too
Totals (shipping ~$20.00)
Got 'em in this box (coffee cup for size reference)
New stuff...outta the box
Denny
Canned Monster
Being that your fluffier now are you sure that 5/8” spindles are going to be enough?
Denny
Canned Monster
Just kidding dude!!! But I couldn’t pass it up. The devil made me do it!
Functional Artist
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Hey Denny,
I'ma just a little fluffier
...gettin' that "dad" bod
...kinda "creeped up" on me
...if ya know what I mean
Did some "napkin" calculations
...& yup, them 5/8 spindles, should still "be good" enough
Functional Artist
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Large size seat (blue) compared to an XL size seat (black)
Overall, the XL (black) seat is ~2" wider than the Large (blue) seat
...looks ta be ~1" wider on each side
Overall, the XL (black) seat is ~2" wider than the Large (blue) seat
...looks ta be ~1" wider on each side
Functional Artist
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Change (1) thing
...& it "throws" other things "off" (technical term)
Of course, a wider seat
...doesn't "fit" in the "wooden model"
Another view
Adjustment specs
Another view
Warning:
Unnecessary jabberin'
I'ma thinkin' about narrowing "sponces" down to ~4" wide
...from the current ~12" wide
&
I'ma thinkin' about narrowing the front of the "sponces" down to ~2" wide
...from the "soon to be" ~4" wide "sponces"
&/also
I'ma thinkin' about widening the rear of the "sponces" up to ~10"
...wide from the "soon to be" 4" wide "sponces"
* I'ma thinkin' that by angling the "inner walls" inwards
...makin' the rear ends of the "sponces" kinda "horn" shaped
...should help the air, flowing thru the tunnels, to expand while exhausting out/behind the racer
&/of course
Widening the "seating area"
...kinda like this illustration/drawin'
...& it "throws" other things "off" (technical term)
Of course, a wider seat
...doesn't "fit" in the "wooden model"
Another view
Adjustment specs
Another view
Warning:
Unnecessary jabberin'
I'ma thinkin' about narrowing "sponces" down to ~4" wide
...from the current ~12" wide
&
I'ma thinkin' about narrowing the front of the "sponces" down to ~2" wide
...from the "soon to be" ~4" wide "sponces"
&/also
I'ma thinkin' about widening the rear of the "sponces" up to ~10"
...wide from the "soon to be" 4" wide "sponces"
* I'ma thinkin' that by angling the "inner walls" inwards
...makin' the rear ends of the "sponces" kinda "horn" shaped
...should help the air, flowing thru the tunnels, to expand while exhausting out/behind the racer
&/of course
Widening the "seating area"
...kinda like this illustration/drawin'
ezcome-ezgo
G'me sumthin to write on
Yes. This solution is winning, like the USA.
Functional Artist
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More specs
Front wheel(s) should "go" about here
...but, inside the wheel well/fender
Pedal, Heel, Axle & Tie Rod placement info
Closer up(per) view of the Heel, Axle & Tie Rod placement info
Front wheel(s) should "go" about here
...but, inside the wheel well/fender
Pedal, Heel, Axle & Tie Rod placement info
Closer up(per) view of the Heel, Axle & Tie Rod placement info
Functional Artist
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Got some more/better wood
Paperwork
Paperwork
ezcome-ezgo
G'me sumthin to write on
Keep the moisture away from that MDF.
Functional Artist
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Hey Ez,
Yup, I had the MDF sittin' on wooden blocks
...ta keep 'em off the snowy truck bed
...& brought 'em inside pretty quickly
Functional Artist
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I heard someone ask "Why did ya switch to MDF & why did ya have the shop cut 'em up for ya?"
A:
1.) Splinters & trueness
Because plywood is made outta real wood
...it produces splinters (very irritating)
...& (sometimes) it's kinda "wavy"
Whereas MDF doesn't produce splinters
...& it (usually) stays "truer" (technical term for not wavy)
2.) Convenience (pick your battles)
Manually running a (or a couple of) full size 4' x 8' sheets of plywood/MDF
...thru a table top/portable Table Saw isn't easy
Especially outdoors on a windy, winter day
...&/so, for $13.00 dollars ($1.00 per cut)
...I "delegated" that work out
A:
1.) Splinters & trueness
Because plywood is made outta real wood
...it produces splinters (very irritating)
...& (sometimes) it's kinda "wavy"
Whereas MDF doesn't produce splinters
...& it (usually) stays "truer" (technical term for not wavy)
2.) Convenience (pick your battles)
Manually running a (or a couple of) full size 4' x 8' sheets of plywood/MDF
...thru a table top/portable Table Saw isn't easy
Especially outdoors on a windy, winter day
...&/so, for $13.00 dollars ($1.00 per cut)
...I "delegated" that work out
Functional Artist
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After some measurin' markin' & cuttin'
...I assembled the (precut) 4" strips into (2) wooden subframe(s) for the "sponces'
Notice the curved front (4" to 2" transition)?
Here's another view
...I assembled the (precut) 4" strips into (2) wooden subframe(s) for the "sponces'
Notice the curved front (4" to 2" transition)?
Here's another view
Functional Artist
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I "skinned" the outer sides
...before addin' the horizontal "fins"
*So, I could "lay 'em flat"
...ta finagle (technical term) the 1/4"MDF around the curves
The top "sponce" has already been "skinned"
...& then, flipped over ta show ya
* Notice I added some extra "backing" behind & just before where the outer "skin" was to bend
This was give me more area
...for "drawing down" & securing (glue & nails) the "skin", to the sub-assembly
...to help manage &/or eliminate any natural "bowing" of the panel, around the curve
Movin' on/next up, was ta make these horizontal "fins"
Here's the plan (pretty simple...really)
Left "sponce" has its inner skin installed
...but, haven't done the right "sponce" yet...ta show ya...the "innards"
Both "sponces" are/have been "skinned"
...& here's about how they will be set up
...before addin' the horizontal "fins"
*So, I could "lay 'em flat"
...ta finagle (technical term) the 1/4"MDF around the curves
The top "sponce" has already been "skinned"
...& then, flipped over ta show ya
* Notice I added some extra "backing" behind & just before where the outer "skin" was to bend
This was give me more area
...for "drawing down" & securing (glue & nails) the "skin", to the sub-assembly
...to help manage &/or eliminate any natural "bowing" of the panel, around the curve
Movin' on/next up, was ta make these horizontal "fins"
Here's the plan (pretty simple...really)
Left "sponce" has its inner skin installed
...but, haven't done the right "sponce" yet...ta show ya...the "innards"
Both "sponces" are/have been "skinned"
...& here's about how they will be set up