Clone Engine Recomendation!

[briggsman]

I am looking to get a clone engine for a cart im going to build and was wanting your input on the best one for the least money, and what most of you guys are using, and perferably one that i can get performance parts for?
thanks for your help!

 

[Russell ATV]

They are all within 10% of each other in terms of power and torque. Reliability/quality is also very close assembler to assembler. This is because there are only 3-4 part manufacturers all working off the Honda Manufacturing prints. The assembly houses then buy the parts and put the motors together.

So, as long as you are buying from an assembler that builds in volume (successful), then buy according to price. Harbor Frieght will get to $129 fairly often, but you might hear about $99 ones at some locations due to inventory reduction, or liquidation of previous models. Lots of people sell these engines.

There is a good market for upgrades on the 196cc clone engines that are the 6.5HP models.

Russ Barrow
Russell ATV

 

[Kenny_McCormic]

Its mostly the rockers that make them different.

 

[briggsman]

Thanks guys ill look at harbor frieght and see what i can find.

 

[r_chez_08]

I think the red clones are best, then blue, then yellow, but i may be wrong.

 

[jr dragster T]

I think the red clones are best, then blue, then yellow, but i may be wrong.

What about black clones? Your order of quality is not realy valid unless all brands are concidered.

 

[killawatt]

black clones i have a blue one have seen the yellow ones wish i had a red one but have never heard of the black clones who has them?

 

[jr dragster T]

black clones i have a blue one have seen the yellow ones wish i had a red one but have never heard of the black clones who has them?

Princess Auto carries the black ones. They all come from the same place realy.

 

[Russell ATV]

Tyler,

Look at the EPA sticker on the engine and see who the manufacturer is. I have a black clone, I wonder if they are the same Assembler. Mine was an import from China, so no rebranding.

Russ Barrow
Russell ATV

 

[jr dragster T]

Where is the EPA sticker? I dont see a thing about EPA?

 

[Russell ATV]

I think the red clones are best, then blue, then yellow, but i may be wrong.

On paper, the Red and white clone has the most power and torque. I am still trying to determine this. Most people think the Yellow engine has the most and they are getting to be as prolific as the Blue. I should have some data on a Yellow verus Red and White soon.

I have a black, and it has the best breather element I have seen on a clone (washable foam) but it does not feel as powerful as the others. Tough to tell with only one example though. Excellent build quality.

Russ Barrow
Russell ATV

 

[Scorch3]

i have the one Tylers talking about and the sticker is "Power Fist", Princess Autos in house brand. I'm not sure about the EPA thing but it does have a washable foam filter.

 

[Russell ATV]

Most EPA stickers are on the engine shroud just below the on/off switch, but for some reason, mine is on the air filter cover. Makes any clone engine only a hand nut away from being EPA certified.

My Black Clone is a Shandong Huasheng.

Russ Barrow
Russell ATV

 

[thgrahamjr]

This is my black clone, it says Baja Motorsports but is made by Chongqing Hensim.

 

[killawatt]

what did you come up with as far as which motor is more powerful

 

[briggsman]

I would have to say I really like the blue one, nice color. But as its been stated on here befor wouldnt they all be about the same if there all based of honda's plans for assembly?

 

[Jerryburger]

I think the kart racers (the big money ones) are using the Yellow Clone as their "Box Stock" standard. In the article posted about the Clone Build-Up, (LOVE IT!) the person used a Box Stock, which I'm ASSuming is a Yellow Clone. If so, pretty impressive motor. I'd be happy if the other clones do as well.

 

[Kevin Noah]

These clones are all made with the same tooling as hondas. One difference is a clone has crank bushing instead of bearing.

 

[BradenM]

Apparently the flywheel varies from clone to clone, and I have read that some are more dangerous then others in terms of the points dropping into a groove on the flywheel and causing all sorts of fun.

 

[jr dragster T]

These clones are all made with the same tooling as hondas. One difference is a clone has crank bushing instead of bearing.

The GX200 clone does NOT utillize a crank bushing. Its a dual bearing crankshaft. Not sure what clone you've been working on. And its the coil dropping onto the flywheel and not the points as this is a CDI pack or Capicitor Discharge Ignition.