Issue with chain rubbing torque converter

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Lucked up an guy at Napa hooked me up gonna put on later but another thing to note it may be normal but I can smell the gasoline come out the tail pipe when I try to turn it over, could too much fuel cause that low toned putter when trying to crank it?
 

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I guess it might be flooded if you’ve tried to start it many times but it didn’t pop off.
You can take the spark plug out and pull the cord a few times. With some eye protection, look if gas squirts out of the plug hole. Let the plug and chamber dry out if wet after squirting the chamber.?
 

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Also might want to change the oil if it smells like a bunch of gas got into the oil by seeping past the piston rings.
 

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Somthing I didn’t consider my other governor had a gas shut off switch this one didn’t I imagine it prolly flooded from sittin over night too huh 🤦‍♂️
 

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I tryed slide moving e clip from middle to top an the bottom each pull sounds like the same low tone mutter, starter fluid or nothing starting it.. couldn’t that be my spark plug not firing if starter fluid not working? My boys birthday is tomorrow an I insisted on go fast parts vs a axel for one I know is running.. really wanna pull this out for him
 

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An just check oil there definitely gas in there like that I wasn’t even aware could happen.. lesson learned if it don’t start in 5 pulls something’s wrong leave it alone till fixed.. gonna get more tomorrow I guess but that wouldn’t stop me from getting it to crank right? Just don’t want run it long with gas in oil ?
 

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I’m still hurting from slipping on ice. I thought I busted a rib, but x-rays were negative. It’s like once you cross the age of 40, injuries linger for ever.

Good luck. Let us know how it goes.
Do you remember which slot the clip was in. I think needles have 5 slots. I’d probably start in the middle slot if unsure.
It depends honestly, some have only 4 while most have 5. There is no such thing as the correct position beyond the middle being the default.

Since a carb is only "on the needle" for the last 3rd to WOT of the throttle range the needle is simply a way to lean out or enrich that zone.

Clip down= rich
Clip up= lean
 

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An just check oil there definitely gas in there like that I wasn’t even aware could happen.. lesson learned if it don’t start in 5 pulls something’s wrong leave it alone till fixed.. gonna get more tomorrow I guess but that wouldn’t stop me from getting it to crank right? Just don’t want run it long with gas in oil ?
Piss rich, that there is called excessive blowby.
 

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I guess ima take my carb back apart an check to make sure it’s not vacuum leak it all looks nice an tight. But I watched a video after fact an they sudjest to put the extension on the carb first so you can assure the seals lined up by looking in it I put extension on the motor first
 

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Ok so I’m spinning my wheels messing with the pin.. what could cause excessive blow by?
Point blank you're getting too much fuel through the carb...
The question I can't answer without enough details or being hands on with it is "what is causing it to flood so badly?"

In my garage my first thought would be astuck float... problem with that being a stuck float will flood to the point that fuel runs out of the bowl overflow tube
(or for stock type carbs out of a hole between the carb and and the adapter plate)

Is there a fuel pump in use?
You can't use a pump with a slide carb, they exclusively use gravity (there are VC carbs with a built in pulse pump)
Reason being the pulse pump will overrun the float needle valve, this would not necessarily cause overflow tube leakage because the engine would need to be running or at least rolled over with the recoil to pump but if it's running its using at least some of the fuel being pumped so it can't exactly overflow.
Another thing about gassy oil...
If you poured gas down the spark hole with the piston at BDC until the bore was full and left it to sit eventually every bit of the gas you poured in would slowly make its way past the rings into the case.
Rings only truely seal when theres pressure on them, and the heat of running causes thermal expansion which tightens the ring end gaps
 

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So this is the bottom of carb just realized it has a smaller spout a gas line it come with. Is this vital? If so where does the line run to
 

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I guess ima take my carb back apart an check to make sure it’s not vacuum leak it all looks nice an tight. But I watched a video after fact an they sudjest to put the extension on the carb first so you can assure the seals lined up by looking in it I put extension on the motor first
I don't know anything about any extensions, I make my own manifolds
 

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So this is the bottom of carb just realized it has a smaller spout a gas line it come with. Is this vital? If so where does the line run to
That is just the bowl drain. It's not critical to have a fuel line on it, having one on just allows you direct where the gas goes instead of gravity deciding when you back that screw there out about half way
 

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Ahh I see it’s A drain for the carb bowl
I checked your area code, if you were closer to the (276) region I'd offer to beat it into submission.

I've been going through engines for a guy up the road, made his Hammerhead LE-150 go from not running at all to running like a rabbit.

He's got a turd of a CanAm spyder he wants me to do and a Yamaha dirtbike with a leaky petcock he wants me to go over
 
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