Ford reliability ?

[fowler]

First off I'd better say ford is very big in aus and hold a large part of the market for performance cars for working class
(xr8 and so on)

Iv always thought of ford as a good company
probably because u always see old fords stool cruising around looking ok for there age

But a bloke at work has been havering terrible issues with his xr6 turbo ute, the computer can't stay operational and this morning the left cylenders cut in and out
The cars brand new

After This was brought up at work it turns out that 03 forward everyone who's owned one has had issues
From weak interior to holes in the block to blowing the inter cooler lines off on a monthly bassis

So is this a world wide thing or is our workshop full of people with terrible luck

 

[klicky96]

I've honestly never heard of this happening at all. Depending on the setup of the car, if it has a full electric system, I would go straight to the coil pack.

 

[fowler]

Na we're pretty sure it's the ECM on the xr6 because it's a reoccurring problem in this car
And the fact it's so intermittent
And that out of 14 deisel fitters And 3 auto sparkys that's the only thing we didnt fiddle with

 

[B.M.800]

Weather on not this has anyhting to do with whats happening there...
A mechanic friend tolk me abut another guy he works with, he had a newer ford deisel and around 50k the engine died, I forget what though, but I believe the block was shot...

like I said, prolly nothiong to do with what going on over there.

 

[matman55]

well,in america are fords are ok(anything above a f150 is alright for me)i now pleatly of people with those trucks,but im not to confident that in 10 years that truck is going to be running strong.take the ford ranger for example.5 of my freinds have some variation of that vehicle.all but one are ready to be FORD(found on road dead)so in the long run ide go with a more dependiable truck.like a nissan.there seem to be pleanty of those little things put putin around town just fine.But thats just my opinion.

 

[crazzywolfie]

i think there was a couple of years where all brands had there slumps and put out lots of garbage. dodge used crappy steering parts that couldn't be greased which caused them to fail. ford liked spitting out spark plugs around the same times. gm's almost have too many problems to list. a friend of mine went through 3 or 4 rear ends before the dealership gave him a new truck.

 

[Jake.B]

My cousin has gone through 6 power steering pumps on her ford focus in like 2 months. My uncles ford expadition has gone through more things that i can count in the last few months. I used to like fords but they seem like tons of crap compared to chevey.

 

[Doc Sprocket]

I've driven a lot of stuff over many years. I laugh when I hear someone saying "Ford sucks", or "Dodge is best", or whatever. Amongst the big three American manufacturers, they all have their high points and low points. You really have to evaluate individual models for comparison. Also, manufacturers have good engines, and bad ones. The 4.3 Vortec V6 from GM is one he// of a good engine. You get a vehicle with that engine, odds are good it'll live long. On the other hand, there's a GM dog or two out there. Doesn't matter the platform, if you get a notoriously bad engine, the car will be an anchor, too. It works like that for all the manufacturers.

 

[bighead]

well,in america are fords are ok(anything above a f150 is alright for me)i now pleatly of people with those trucks,but im not to confident that in 10 years that truck is going to be running strong.take the ford ranger for example.5 of my freinds have some variation of that vehicle.all but one are ready to be FORD(found on road dead)so in the long run ide go with a more dependiable truck.like a nissan.there seem to be pleanty of those little things put putin around town just fine.But thats just my opinion.

I have to rangers. One for 20 years and the other for 10. Still going strong.

If you drive a truck into the ground in ten years your hard on cars and trucks peroid.

So anything 2002 and under is junk?

Joe has truck and takes care of it and it last 20 plus years.

Jon has same truck but drives like a wildman and does not take care of it. If Jons truck is a good truck it will last 10 years and then he will complain about it.

 

[bighead]

Is Dodge,chevy,GMC in Aus as well? Or you guys looking at only fords for the most part.

To me they are all the same now days anyway. It's not like back in the day.

Does Aus has it's own Ford Division?

 

[realfast89gt]

I have been unlucky to repair most makes of cars and trucks over the last 13 years. In my experience, most makes and models can last a very long time with proper maintenance. Too many times i see an abused vehicle and the owner says how they will never buy another. 9 times out of 10 it is the owners fault due to lack of maintenance or using the vehicle beyond its intended purpose.

Although you will find many first or second year new models have issues.
For example i worked for Infiniti, and when the qx56 came out there was a serious brake pulsation problem. People would come into the dealership with 1500 miles on a brand new $60000 suv with a pulsation so bad it was barely driveable. We found out a few months later the brakes were undersized for the weight of the vehicle because the engineers miscalculated. It took over 6 months before there was a redesigned front brake rotor big enough to handle the weight.

These things happen all the time with new and redesigned models and there is nothing we can do but hope the manufacturer fixes it for us.

Sorry for the long post.....

 

[fowler]

The biggest market holders are ford, holden( gm owned) and Toyota

Also the Korean and Japanese brands are big

European cars make a small show and American u see a few but not many

These cars are owned by mechanics and are well looked after
Some have been modifyed to eliminate faults And many are modifyed for performance

Agreed a car that is driven like a hire car will not last long but some last better than others regardless of treatment

 

[realfast89gt]

My cousin has gone through 6 power steering pumps on her ford focus in like 2 months. My uncles ford expadition has gone through more things that i can count in the last few months. I used to like fords but they seem like tons of crap compared to chevey.

It is 100% not fords fault going through 6 p/s pumps....... either installer error or they didnt replace the pump all 6 times. That is unheard of if it is done correct with quality parts.

Something as simple as over-tightening the drive belt can ruin pumps.



Fowler, sounds like possible design flaws or rushing production......doest make sense why though.

 

[devino246]

I have to rangers. One for 20 years and the other for 10. Still going strong.

If you drive a truck into the ground in ten years your hard on cars and trucks peroid.

So anything 2002 and under is junk?

Joe has truck and takes care of it and it last 20 plus years.

Jon has same truck but drives like a wildman and does not take care of it. If Jons truck is a good truck it will last 10 years and then he will complain about it.

I will have to agree, however, I seriously question the longevity of newer cars. 8-10 years doesn't treat rubber, plastic, and electronics well, and that's basically 2/3 the weight of newer cars. Granted, newer polymers are much better than they're ancestors, but I still see parts getting to the end of their lives on my parents' 2008 cars (Hyundai Sonata and Pontiac G6). We take good car of our cars, too.

 

[devino246]

My cousin has gone through 6 power steering pumps on her ford focus in like 2 months. My uncles ford expadition has gone through more things that i can count in the last few months. I used to like fords but they seem like tons of crap compared to chevey.

It is 100% not fords fault going through 6 p/s pumps....... either installer error or they didnt replace the pump all 6 times. That is unheard of if it is done correct with quality parts.

Something as simple as over-tightening the drive belt can ruin pumps.

Fowler, sounds like possible design flaws or rushing production......doest make sense why though.

That's called a really bad mechanic.

 

[crazzywolfie]

These cars are owned by mechanics and are well looked after
Some have been modifyed to eliminate faults And many are modifyed for performance

that kind of it right there. you sometimes got to do preventive maintenance. sometimes money spent now can save you lots in the future. most people don't understand that and think you are just wasting money until they are left stranded on the side of the road.

 

[realfast89gt]

that kind of it right there. you sometimes got to do preventive maintenance. sometimes money spent now can save you lots in the future. most people don't understand that and think you are just wasting money until they are left stranded on the side of the road.

Yep, and then they get mad at the shops/mechanics when we show them a few thousand dollar repair write up.......

 

[Doc Sprocket]

To me they are all the same now days anyway. It's not like back in the day.

Meh- was the same back then, too. Everybody took turns ruling the roost.

 

[klicky96]

But, One thing we can say about ford. WE MADE THE FIRST VEHICLE WITH THE INTERNAL COMBUSTION ENGINE!!!!


But, I do believe, If you take care of a vehicle, it can last as long as you want it to. My buddy has a 1979 Ford F-250 with over 400,000 on the engine. Yes, he's had to do some work with her, but he and I went on a trip to cali last year, the truck had absolutely no problems at all. Going from northern ohio to northern cali is a pretty far trip. But, the truck was taken care of so I wasn't worried.

 

[newrider3]

Don't want to get in on any brand superiority arguments, but there's one phrase you have to keep in mind when thinking about a product like automobiles: planned obsolescence. Cars and trucks will last forever with the right maintenance, but that's not what the manufacturer really wants. They want you to buy the next newest coolest thing, or else they would soon be out of business.