Osama bin Laden is dead! bout time!

[sexyvicta]

When you need us, I bet we'll be there. You're da** close to tectonic plates, it's bound to happen some day.

it did happen. This year and you did come and help out.

Just like we come and help you fight fires in california etc. Thats what friends do. It has nothing to do with what we're talking about however.

the problems you guys are dealing with now are a direct consequence of your actions in the past. You can't expect to f*ck with people and have them bend over and take it without fighting back...not that there is any justification for terrorism...but every action has a reaction.

You guys tried to bully us in the 80s after we passed anti nuclear legislation. We told you to **** off and you didn't like it.
You banned us from joint military exercises and put other sanctions on us to try and make us change our mind.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OeHTziiFVx0

And you're still trying to tell us what to do. We recently passed a BS internet copy right law thing due to pressure from your govt/corporations.

You have to realise that this kind of meddling pisses off a lot of people!

i getting married to a yank next year btw

 

[Doc Sprocket]

I absolutely guarantee that at least one of those TV shows are already halfway thru writing...
EDIT- Today I heard that the Taliban "confirmed" Bin Rottin's death, and are pissed off and vowing vengeance.

Boy, I'm really glad the US tried to honour Islamic tradition and didn't show photos. Then the Taliban would be mad and vowing vengeance. Oh, wait- They ARE mad and vowing vengeance...

Vengeance. Makes sense. They kill thousands of innocents, so "we" kill one militant leader. And THEY want vengeance? Honestly- Is there anybody on the planet that's too bloody naive to see how truly f**king twisted these people are???

Oh wait- there's more! They also said on the news that files recovered from the site have revealed that this genocial maniac had been working on a scheme for a "10th anniversary of 9/11" terror attack upon the United States. What would that have been vengeance for? Great- more senseless deaths of innocent civilans.

Enough of this *****-footing around. Time to warm up some nukes.

 

[Doc Sprocket]

One other point here- If the Taliban or whomever this applies to, is cheesed off at the US government for whatever has been done in the past (which may very well be), them they can dammed well take it out on the government/military! Leave the civvies alone. It is NOT John Q. Public's fault, and they do not deserve to be penalized.

 

[j.concepcion54321]

I absolutely guarantee that at least one of those TV shows are already halfway thru writing...
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Enough of this *****-footing around. Time to warm up some nukes.

 

[Rustydog2010]

Boy, I'm really glad the US tried to honour Islamic tradition and didn't show photos. Then the Taliban would be mad and vowing vengeance. Oh, wait- They ARE mad and vowing vengeance...

Really? Have a read up on your Islamic tradition.

Burial rituals should normally take place as soon as possible and include:
Bathing the dead body
Enshrouding dead body in a white cotton or linen cloth.
Funeral prayer
Burial of the dead body in a grave.
Positioning the deceased so that the head is faced towards Mecca (Makkah Al-Mukarramah).

From what I have seen and heard, they did one of those things, tried and failed. Yes they say, they did it so I wouldn't be a shrine. Why cant it be a shrine? People are going to believe what they want. But, wait, of coarse people should all just think the way that you want them to think shouldn't they?

They kill thousands of innocents, so "we" kill one militant leader.

Along with the thousands of innocents over there?

Enough of this *****-footing around. Time to warm up some nukes.

Go for it! Once people and countries realise the sick and twisted ways of America the better. The American army cant defend against the worlds army.

Jeremy.

 

[Rustydog2010]

So the so called half million dead is not all at American hands?

No, who said it was? But who had the majority of forces there? And who had the most reason to be there and the reason for everyone else to be there?

AMERICA!

Sure, NZ went, but thats because you asked us. I don't totally agree on us going, but I cant change s***.

And whoever said about earthquakes and you'll be there to help? That is totally irrelevant, asking for help to save people from collapsed building is a bit different than asking for a countries force to go to war for 10 years.

Jeremy.

 

[Doc Sprocket]

Really? Have a read up on your Islamic tradition.

I have. I was alluding to the US's "excuse" for dumping the body within 24 hours. Sarcasm often doesn't parlay well in text form.

Yes they say, they did it so I wouldn't be a shrine. Why cant it be a shrine?

For the same sort of reasons we couldn't condone or allow a shrine to Adolf Hitler. Same attitude, smaller scale.

People are going to believe what they want.

Yes, we do- You too.

But, wait, of coarse people should all just think the way that you want them to think shouldn't they?

Welcome to the entire planet. Show me somewhere that this statement doesn't apply.

Along with the thousands of innocents over there?

You'll forgive my skepticism on that.

Once people and countries realise the sick and twisted ways of America the better. The American army cant defend against the worlds army.

Holy cow- are you kidding me?

 

[sexyvicta]

Today I heard that the Taliban "confirmed" Bin Rottin's death, and are pissed off and vowing vengeance.

Al-Qaeda confirmed his death. Osama bin laden was the head of Al-Qaeda. Not the taliban. They are not the same organisation!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Qaeda

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taliban

 

[sexyvicta]

Islamic tradition.

heard an interview with some Muslim guy on the radio the other day. He said that sea burial was all gravy.

yeh

 

[Doc Sprocket]

Al-Qaeda confirmed his death. Osama bin laden was the head of Al-Qaeda. Not the taliban. They are not the same organisation!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Qaeda

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taliban

Error on my part. Doesn't change the facts of the matter.

 

[bighead]

Burial rituals were followed to Islamic traditions. Even at sea. I have heard plenty of experts on AM radio over that matter.


Like I said, Those Seals will be up for murder charges before all this is over. People will never stop drinking cooliad.
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The only reaon I do not like some people in the middle east is that they are trying to kill me and my family. Not trying to change but kill. I do not want to kill anyone. Never have and hope to never have too. If you are not a Christian then I do not care. I do not want to kill you. And I am not going the tape a bomb to me and kill 200 people over it. I am not going to poisen 3 million people. And I am not going to set off a dirty bomb.

They want to kill you too. Buts that's okay right? Just let it grow utill they get big enough to have some cells were you live. Let nations like Iraq have weapons of mass destruction. Everything will be fine. Give the Taliban some as well. Let Korea join the party too. Everything is fine.

Not sure about you. But if someone wants and is trying to kill me. I am not going to stand back and wait. Period. As long as the soilders are not being drafted. I have zero problems with whats going right now.

 

[sexyvicta]

well yeh but you guys keep saying taliban this taliban that. They aint done **** to you other than defend themselves after you invaded Afganistan to go after Al'qaeda.

you should read this piece. Written in 2001.
http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Afghanistan/Afghanistan_CIA_Taliban.html

Brezinski hoped not just to drive the Russians out of Afghanistan, but to ferment unrest within the Soviet Union itself. His plan, says author Dilip Hiro, was "to export a composite ideology of nationalism and Islam to the Muslim-majority Central Asian states and Soviet Republics with a view to destroying the Soviet order." Looking back in 1998, Brezinski had no regrets. "What was more important in the world view of history?... A few stirred-up Muslims or the liberation of Central Europe and the end of the Cold War>"

lololol the plan backfired didn't it

 

[bighead]

well yeh but you guys keep saying taliban this taliban that. They aint done **** to you other than defend themselves after you invaded Afganistan to go after Al'qaeda.

you should read this piece. Written in 2001.
http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Afghanistan/Afghanistan_CIA_Taliban.html



lololol the plan backfired didn't it

You really think the two are not connected? Do they not fight side by side? Taliban was never running terriost training centers? Sorry for blowing those up. Maybe thats why they are defending themselves.

Hitler never did anything to use. Did that stop us? Wonder what would happend if we followed your logic back then? Or just wait until Germany invaded the USA right? People like this need to be stoped.

If the USA stopped all work overseas and said we will only worry about the USA. DO not ask for any help or aid ever. Let every nation do what they like. The world would be a scary place right now. Also the death toll would be way higher if we never stepped foot in the middle east. If your coutry is invaded by Iraq. Should we just stand and watch? Or fight for your freedom again? Remember Sadam is now your leader.

 

[sexyvicta]

oh yes they most definitely have connections but they're still not the same...From what i've read Osama wasn't a big fan of the Taliban.

the US govt supported the Taliban control of Afganistan up until the late 90's.

reagan with his Mujahideen friends

 

[sexyvicta]

Hitler never did anything to use. Did that stop us? Wonder what would happend if we followed your logic back then? Or just wait until Germany invaded the USA right? People like this need to be stoped.

Um what!...You did wait until Japan attacked you to enter the war LOL. You stood back and watched for 3/4 years while the Nazis blitzkrieged their way across europe and africa.

in the 1920s The Nazi party recieved funding from Americans. Henry ford was a big fan

 

[Rustydog2010]

Like I said, Those Seals will be up for murder charges before all this is over. People will never stop drinking cooliad.

So you are virtually saying that people that don't agree with you and your opinions are drinking cooliad? Just because people have different opinions doesn't mean they are wrong.

The only reaon I do not like some people in the middle east is that they are trying to kill me and my family. Not trying to change but kill. I do not want to kill anyone. Never have and hope to never have too. If you are not a Christian then I do not care. I do not want to kill you. And I am not going the tape a bomb to me and kill 200 people over it. I am not going to poisen 3 million people. And I am not going to set off a dirty bomb.

I totally agree, if they where coming for me or my family, I would have no hesitation to be on the front line of our defense. This some what contradicts what I have been saying, but my point all along has been the way America has operated. How would America feel if Russia or Germany, any other nation raided places there without giving your Government prior knowledge? They would be p*****.

The other thing is that you guys all seem to be brain washed, your opinions are all the same. You guys seem so patriotic and will not disagree with anything the government says. Hey- this probably isn't true, but it sure looks that way. I have no problem pointing out the problems of the NZ government and NZ as a fact. But when it comes to America its always perfect?

Jeremy.

 

[bighead]

oh yes they most definitely have connections but they're still not the same...From what i've read Osama wasn't a big fan of the Taliban.

the US govt supported the Taliban control of Afganistan up until the late 90's.

reagan with his Mujahideen friends

I am pretty sure at this time they were not killing Americans right? We were also not at war right?

Also about that pic with Reagan? I wonder what it was about?

Also your point is only proving how the USA will try to help. USSR was envading them. They asked for help. And we helped. We helped them keep there country. Now they want to kill us.

But for some reason you cannot see it this way.

Also why was the US govt supporting the Taliban control of Afganistan in the first place? Let me guess mass people were being killed or something right? Or was it starving people? Dam US anyway. But for some reason that part gets passed up. Again what was your point here? How bad Americans are? Hmmmm

Also we did not wait for 3 years. We were sending out masses of supplies helping. We also sent vollenteer airmen over to fight. Do you consider that sitting back? Oh yah we did all that whle trying to build are own war machine. I would guess we sent butt loads of funds as well.

I don't know man. Perhaps the US should of let Sadam have Kawait and kill off it's people. Then those 1/2 million people would of never died right? See it for what it is friend. In all the cases you talked about ask why did it start? And why were we there?

 

[bighead]

I never called anyone here a cooliad drinker. I said people read articals like above and really beleave the inflated numbers and drink it like cooliad.

If I did am sorry. Not wanting to fight with anyone over this. All of us would be just fine drinking a beer togather. Lets remeber that regardless of polital views.

Your my friends regardless of what you type here.

 

[bighead]

So you are virtually saying that people that don't agree with you and your opinions are drinking cooliad? Just because people have different opinions doesn't mean they are wrong.



I totally agree, if they where coming for me or my family, I would have no hesitation to be on the front line of our defense. This some what contradicts what I have been saying, but my point all along has been the way America has operated. How would America feel if Russia or Germany, any other nation raided places there without giving your Government prior knowledge? They would be p*****.

The other thing is that you guys all seem to be brain washed, your opinions are all the same. You guys seem so patriotic and will not disagree with anything the government says. Hey- this probably isn't true, but it sure looks that way. I have no problem pointing out the problems of the NZ government and NZ as a fact. But when it comes to America its always perfect? Jeremy.

I can see and understand how you see this in Amricans. But when it comes to over seas BS like all this really is. You got to look outside and inside the box. Sometimes pick the flaps up and look under them.

I fill safer today for what my Goverment is doing. Not all is right or correct. But I fill safer. I like that.

 

[Rustydog2010]

All of us would be just fine drinking a beer togather. Lets remeber that regardless of polital views.

Your my friends regardless of what you type here.

Couldn't agree more, sure we could argue until we a blue in the face (Almost there. ). But whats the point? Whats done is done, and we as individuals have little say in the way society operates.

No matter what our political opinions are at least we are civil on the other parts of the forum. You guys have knowledge and ideas that I want! And probably vice-versa. The differing opinions are what makes this forum great, always an alternative way to do something.

Cheers, Jeremy.