work in progress , my manco quicksilver 2

[therealsamfisher]

this is the only pic I have from the day I got her.


now I got it for stupid cheap...

the frame near the engine had a crack all the way through and had warped from previous owners ignorance of it and continued use after the fact , but I had it brought back to shape and welded .

I drove it for a week or so , and picked up a much larger but oddly same engine , manco dingo 6gl ( thats a whole different story I will get into in another post ) , and then decided I needed more power.

so I picked up a 196 ducar , with billet flywheel and rod , 18lb springs , mikuni carb and a 3100 rpm spring ( comet clutch ) images of new engine and dingo with tecumseh next to it for (crappy) comparison lol

well , I REALLY didnt expect this ducar to put out the power it is... its legitimately scary lol.

now to figure out the dingo... it has a drive system issue that I am far too inept to properly diagnose... im very new to this lol....

 

[Half-breeder]

now I got it for stupid cheap...

... kinda curious how 'cheap' is 'stupid cheap'... did they pay you to take it?...

so I picked up a 196 ducar , with billet flywheel and rod , 18lb springs , mikuni carb and a 3100 rpm spring ( comet clutch ) images of new engine and dingo with tecumseh next to it for (crappy) comparison lol

AWESOME drag setup...fyi I say 'drag setup' (if the springs you speak of are in the Driver) only cause of the spring for the clutch. High rpm engine that more than likely has more hp/torque at a higher rpm. So engagement of acceleration at a closer to peak torque, equals a quicker hole shot... depending on traction. In other words... may whip your neck back no matter how gently you accelerate.

Whats the gearing/wheel size you got?

Kinda curious how the TAV will handle 'that' much hp... PLZ let us know if it eats/warps belts!

well , I REALLY didnt expect this ducar to put out the power it is... its legitimately scary lol.

Yea... quite possibly the closest to an actual GX200 made... from what Ive seen/heard.

 

[therealsamfisher]

the fronts are 145/70 - 6 kenda knobbys , rears are 16 x 8.0 - 7 knobbys ( forgot brand but they are almost not knobbys anymore lol ) and as I said , im very new to this so I wouldn't know how to tell you the gearing lol , ill figure it out in my never ending reading

and stupid cheap is 100 bucks lol

 

[Half-breeder]

Gotcha... gearing is 'count' the # of teeth on both the TC and the axle gears, then divide the axle# into the TC#. The product is the 'gearing/ratio'. Add a :1 after it, is how a ratio is written. Most commonly (on a yard kart) the axle will be a 60T and the TC will be a 10T which gives a 6:1 gearing/ratio.

The 16's are the wheels that will 'mathematically' equate to your speed. By using this, you can find out the 'calculated' topspeed that youll get. Mind you that due to certain 'laws of nature' like gravity/drag/weight, the calculated topspeed possibly wont be attained at 'higher' speeds... 40+mph, but will come close. So if you are running a 6:1 on 16's, and lets guesstimate your RPMs at 7500...ONLY guessing the governor is nonexistent on the engine... your 'possible' topspeed will be close to 60mph.

If I knew the gearing/weight/engine TOTAL specs(top RPMS mainly) , I could give a more accurate #.

 

[itsid]

now to figure out the dingo... it has a drive system issue that I am far too inept to properly diagnose... im very new to this lol....

I see a driver but no driven from this angle, maybe another set of pics will help you diagnosing the problem .

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[firemanjim]

Looking SHARP, Sam!

 

[therealsamfisher]

was out and about on her today , she ran amazing , steering needs a severe overhaul asap but I dont know where to find parts , and need to bend the frame back a bit on the passenger front " spindle " area , it was crashed and now has a bit of pull to it..

also , lost my breather god knows where lol

and I really need a screw in silencer gor this thing..

 

[Greyscale]

I like the ST mesh in your Focus!

I've got an '06 ST myself

 

[therealsamfisher]

I like the ST mesh in your Focus!

I've got an '06 ST myself

hey hey , thats my part out now , cooked the trans and am selling off my aftermarket stuff.

need some ksports , tuner or header

you on the focus forums ?

 

[firemanjim]

Sam, can we get a short video/sound clip of the exhaust on the other kart, please. I'd really like to hear how it sounds. Thinking about an exhaust like that......

 

[therealsamfisher]

Sam, can we get a short video/sound clip of the exhaust on the other kart, please. I'd really like to hear how it sounds. Thinking about an exhaust like that......

the quicksilver? or the dingo?

dingo just has a 20 dollar pipe , sounds mean and spits fire occasionally .

ducar has optional screw in silencer , and if the tecumseh sounds mean , then this one sounds like the devils father !.

just let me know which one to get a clip of lol

 

[firemanjim]

Well, I wanted one of the dingo..... BUT now,..... Both please......
I like the way the one on the dingo looks. I have a candy cane on my gx160, like your quicksilver.

 

[therealsamfisher]

Well, I wanted one of the dingo..... BUT now,..... Both please......
I like the way the one on the dingo looks. I have a candy cane on my gx160, like your quicksilver.

will do asap lol.

to be honest , I like it on the dingo. kinda throaty .


in other news... I snapped the master link middonut in the mud today...

went for a slide , she hooked up well in an almost invisible patch of soft stuff and that was that lol

 

[firemanjim]

Ditch the master links and make a solid chain. The master links is the weakest part..... A solid chain = less down time, and less prone to messing up something else cause the link broke....
You should also try to see WHY the chain broke. Was there any flex somewhere that caused the 2 sprockets to line up at a specific side load, or was it just a crummy link...... ?

 

[therealsamfisher]

Ditch the master links and make a solid chain. The master links is the weakest part..... A solid chain = less down time, and less prone to messing up something else cause the link broke....
You should also try to see WHY the chain broke. Was there any flex somewhere that caused the 2 sprockets to line up at a specific side load, or was it just a crummy link...... ?

I wouldn't be surprised if flex was the issue lol , I was going pretty quick when it grabbed that dirt .. how do I go about making a solid chain

 

[gman3850]

did the same to mine last night, completly sheered the master link, but my sprocket was wout of alignment so i think that is what did it

 

[therealsamfisher]

yup lol. I have NO idea where the master link went , all of it is in the mud I assume

did the same to mine last night, completly sheered the master link, but my sprocket was wout of alignment so i think that is what did it

 

[gman3850]

ya i dont know mine could have been. was just doing donuts and stuff sense it rained yesterday and it broke, had to have my buddy come tow me back to my house haha

 

[therealsamfisher]

ya i dont know mine could have been. was just doing donuts and stuff sense it rained yesterday and it broke, had to have my buddy come tow me back to my house haha

luckily my buddy was at my house and I just so happen to not take anything but my phone when I gokart. he just brought my truck up the street lol

 

[therealsamfisher]

ok , so here is a quick video of both the tecumseh and the ducar.

I will have to wait for a friend to hold the camera to get moving video with better audio ( I apologize for the poor quality , and recommend a volume check ) , this was just in my garage lol , ill have some gopro videos soon


first the tecumseh ( dingo )
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=V5HugXTFc6k&feature=youtu.be


and the ducar ( quicksilver 2 ) , skip to around 12 seconds.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=m2SPSymnbH8&feature=youtu.be