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Jrork2002

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Picked up a Manco 706 XTK. The rear axle is obviously not right. Anyone know what these collars are before I take a hammer and start trying to get it apart?
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Yup :iagree:

For example:
https://www.bmikarts.com/42-x-78-Hex-Axle-for-Manco-606-607-616-617_p_5793.html

This replacement axle is used on Manco go karts 606, 607, 616 and 617.
Product Specs:

  • 7/8" Hexagon shaped live axle
  • Overall Length: 42"
  • Hex Axle Portion: 39''
  • Threaded Ends: 3/4-10 x 1-1/2"

Looks like yours needs a lot of clean up

Maybe, soak the "crap" out of it with WD-40 (or the equivalent) before beating on it (too much)
 

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Yea, I’m not seeing any collars on there. It’s part of the rim dude.
thanks, I did not realize that was part of the rim. I will take everyone advice and clean it up good and use some penetrating lube before trying to remove.
 

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thanks everyone, will clean it up and use some penetrating lube before i get to aggressive with the hammer.
 

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Are you wanting/trying to remove both rear rims/tires?

Before using penetrating oil, I'd clean/wire brush the area as good as possible

It's best to remove as much of that corrosion build up, as possible

Then, "soak" 'er down (good)
...& give 'er a couple of hours (to penetrate)

Then, clean/wire brush 'er again
...& "soak" 'er down again

* Also, when you get to the "hammering" part, please DON'T just "beat" on the "naked" end of the axle

Thread (1) (or both if possible) of your axle nuts, onto the side of the axle that your trying to remove
...thread it down until the top of the nut, is even with the end of the axle
...but, be sure to leave a "space" for movement (so, it's NOT against the rim)

This will give you a larger surface area to "hammer" against
...& also, help protect the threads (on the end of the axle) from "hammering" damage ;)
 

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Are you wanting/trying to remove both rear rims/tires?

Before using penetrating oil, I'd clean/wire brush the area as good as possible

It's best to remove as much of that corrosion build up, as possible

Then, "soak" 'er down (good)
...& give 'er a couple of hours (to penetrate)

Then, clean/wire brush 'er again
...& "soak" 'er down again

* Also, when you get to the "hammering" part, please DON'T just "beat" on the "naked" end of the axle

Thread (1) (or both if possible) of your axle nuts, onto the side of the axle that your trying to remove
...thread it down until the top of the nut, is even with the end of the axle
...but, be sure to leave a "space" for movement (so, it's NOT against the rim)

This will give you a larger surface area to "hammer" against
...& also, help protect the threads (on the end of the axle) from "hammering" damage ;)
Great advice! i really appreciate the thorough instructions. I will let you know how it turns out.
 

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good luck I'm currently going through this on my Manco 606. Finally ended up cutting the axle and using a press to push out the stubs, after heading and beating did not work. I plane on regular removal and anti seize application in the future
 

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good luck I'm currently going through this on my Manco 606. Finally ended up cutting the axle and using a press to push out the stubs, after heading and beating did not work. I plane on regular removal and anti seize application in the future
Same here. After days of soaking it, wailing on it, swearing and sweating I finally cut the axle to remove it. The few karts I've picked up with hex axles had seized wheels. The hex types seem to seize up more than round ones. As suggested, if you get it apart don't be shy on the anti-seize when reassembling.
 

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Same here. After days of soaking it, wailing on it, swearing and sweating I finally cut the axle to remove it. The few karts I've picked up with hex axles had seized wheels. The hex types seem to seize up more than round ones. As suggested, if you get it apart don't be shy on the anti-seize when reassembling.
Yeah, my Streaker has round style and it came off with a few mallet whacks.
 

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Did you ever get it off?

If you decide to replace the axle and wheels because they're hex and just too weird, there is or are people searching for the Manco hex wheels as they are no longer being made (could be wrong, BMI/GPS might be re-manufacturing them).
 
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