Washington vs Lincoln vs Chicago; my God-given right to be rectified!

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Sorry in advance for the semi-duplicate post. Here are the rectifiers I installed on my black Harbor Freight (modern) 90 amp welder and my brother-in-law's blue (older) HF 90 amp. These rectifiers cost less than $20 each and turned these janky, AC electrode-positive flux-core machines into DC electrode-negative boxes and the results are remarkable.

I woke up this Easter morning with the desire to burn some steel. I thought it would be fun (yes, fun, cause I'm handy with the steel, I earn my keep) to lay some test beads between my various flux rolls and let them go head to head. I wanted to check splatter, penetration, and ease of slag removal.

I did a warm up bead with each before hitting the test piece of angle. I would almost swear the Chicago Electric had better penetration than the Lincoln! Washington Alloy was a dead ringer for 2nd place in each category. However, Lincoln takes the belt in splatter control and slag removal.

After all 3 welds cooled, I made several passes on each with a wire cup attached to my angle grinder. I did not use a pick tool or anything else to clean slag. You'll see the Chicago wire had some stubborn slag left along the bottom edge of the weld. I hope you enjoy the results!

My conclusion is that I would not mind using any of these rolls on a customer product, now that the machine is DC. For the ultimate finish, I will surely use nozzle gel on each. Please note I did NOT use gel for these tests.
 

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As for the FC machines... That Lincoln wire seems to be the best out there. Just put a new roll in my clarke 90e FC machine.... Really like that stuff... but it smells weirder than others. more acrid.
 

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Not to take anything away from your testing. Just my .02.
In my experience, The age of the wire will also effect the spatter.
Before I bought my welder, I borrowed my Dads, and it was messy. then when I bought new wire it worked much better.
Both were Lincoln wire in a Lincoln 120v 100 amp AC Machine.
 

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No. the gas removes the oxygen from the Arc. The flux does this in fluxcore welders.
The air/oxygen causes the spatter.
I think.:roflol:

---------- Post added at 02:51 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:47 PM ----------

How do you know if your welder is electrode neg or Pos?
Wouldn't your welder come fromthe factory set up correctly?
 

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my bad boy Lincoln 210MP has a switch for polarity, for when using the aluminum spool gun- which believe it or not, I STILL haven't even tried out yet :-/
 

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doggone it all, I came home from work and decided to lay down my first ever welds on aluminum, dang breezy afternoon in Phoenix, no good for gas shield welding :mad:

---------- Post added at 05:35 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:34 PM ----------

How do you know if your welder is electrode neg or Pos?
Wouldn't your welder come fromthe factory set up correctly?

couldn't you test with a volt meter, test ground clamp and electrode while holding trigger but not welding?
 

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doggone it all, I came home from work and decided to lay down my first ever welds on aluminum, dang breezy afternoon in Phoenix, no good for gas shield welding :mad:

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couldn't you test with a volt meter, test ground clamp and electrode while holding trigger but not welding?

Forget WELDING. I was impressed you could POST THAT!:lolgoku:
 

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How do you know if your welder is electrode neg or Pos?
Wouldn't your welder come fromthe factory set up correctly?

couldn't you test with a volt meter, test ground clamp and electrode while holding trigger but not welding?

Well, I just went and looked. On my Lincoln there are Big +pos. and -neg molded in where the leads attach. and It is correct for electrode negative.

That brings me to my previous post. I wonder if that was why my Dads welder spattered so bad.
 

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Just found this in my eBay shopping cart.
100 Amp 1200 Volts 4 Pin Single Phase Diode Bridge Rectifier, 18 bucks free shipping.

The description says for converting 3 phase.

QL100A 1200V

Is this about what you used?
 
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