Talon zr150r2 ignition

[Casareja]

Have carter talon zr150r2 that ignition switch went bad. It has three wires white, black and red. All the diagrams I can find don’t have those colors. Looking for help on what wire to hook where on new switch.

Thanks jeremy

 

[itsid]

Hi and welcome on board

A Talon you say... I don't have the manual for a ZR Talon (didn't even know carter made a ZR tbh)..
but I have some for different Carter 150cc Talons with a gy6 engine

there are two different setups essentially..
so, if you have a speedometer and a cigarette lighter, or neither is almost important.
(turning lights or not to simplify it )

Say you have a cigarette lighter (GSR150):
one wire (red in my manual) will be fed directly to the positive terminal of the battery via a 2x15A fuse
the second (black in my manual) will be fed directly to the black wire of the Hi/LO Switch and the cigarette lighter and eventually the black wire on the CDI (6pin cdi right plug (2pin) lower pos)
the third and last wire (yellow/red in my manual) is directly conencted to the starter relais.

Say you do NOT have a cigarette lighter (GSX150)
one wire (green in my manual) is grounded
the second (green/white in my manual) is fed to the CDI (6pin, left plug (4pin) left column lower row)
the third and last wire (yellow/red in my manual again) is directly connected to the starter relais.

So those two options are the the common two of three wire ignition switches.

And it's fairly obvious how to wire them correctly, now, right?
First you need to make sure if your switch is conencting power or ground to the CDI
(looking what wire is connected to the CDI.. either 4pin plug or 2pin plug)
and then what wire is connected to the starter relais of your kart.

the starter relais must be on the momentary position of course (usually pos3)
the wire that's conencted to the CD is going to pos2 (on position connected)
and the final wire is either power or ground and is wired to pos 1 on the ignition switch

So all colours aside you can easily test what wire goes where with a multimeter in continuity mode
probing the wire in question and the starter relais, the CDI or the positive respectively negative terminal of the battery.

'sid

 

[Casareja]

Zr150r2 wiring diagram

So finally found the manual. Thanks for taking your time for the response. I am confused and doesn’t take much*. I included the wiring diagram just wondering what wire I hook where on a 3 prong ignition switch that each one is labeled 1,2,3

 

[itsid]

So you're saying you haven't taken a picture or a note writing it down from the old switch?

too bad

Anyhow.. as I said previously .. and since you have a cigarette lighter:

Say you have a cigarette lighter (GSR150):
one wire (red in my manual) will be fed directly to the positive terminal of the battery via a 2x15A fuse
the second (black in my manual) will be fed directly to the black wire of the Hi/LO Switch and the cigarette lighter and eventually the black wire on the CDI (6pin cdi right plug (2pin) lower pos)
the third and last wire (yellow/red in my manual) is directly conencted to the starter relais.
......

the starter relais must be on the momentary position of course (usually pos3)
the wire that's conencted to the CDI is going to pos2 (on position connected)
and the final wire is either power or ground and is wired to pos 1 on the ignition switch

So since what I had as "yellow/red" in my manual you have as "white" in yours
if you look closely your starter relais is indirectly wired through a relais on the brake pedal.
(means you can't start if not braking at the same time)
and not just coincidentally that wire is yellow/red just behind that relais again


meaning
red to pos1
black to pos2
and
white to pos3

And looking at you manual again, that coincidentally matches the LTR order of the drawing

'sid

 

[Msstatealum84]

So you're saying you haven't taken a picture or a note writing it down from the old switch?

too bad

Anyhow.. as I said previously .. and since you have a cigarette lighter:




So since what I had as "yellow/red" in my manual you have as "white" in yours
if you look closely your starter relais is indirectly wired through a relais on the brake pedal.
(means you can't start if not braking at the same time)
and not just coincidentally that wire is yellow/red just behind that relais again


meaning
red to pos1
black to pos2
and
white to pos3

And looking at you manual again, that coincidentally matches the LTR order of the drawing

'sid

So Sid I have a zr150r2 model as well(yes they do make them) I have a 5 prong ignition switch, do you know any website that sells this exact replacement as I’m not that great at wiring especially when I have to connect different colors than what’s is oem. Not so sure this hasn’t been messed with before bc the heat shrink doesn’t look factory to me. Pic of broken ign switch, I’m assuming a 3 prong won’t work bc of the brake pedal relay. Thanks