T-Bucket style Go Kart

[Doc Sprocket]

It would really help if I could draw! Perhaps another member could jump in with a sketch?

 

[chris_the_poser]

It would really help if I could draw! Perhaps another member could jump in with a sketch?

lol thats great. i would but i got lost reading it. im a lil tired. maybe after my nap ill read it when i get up and make since of it

 

[Doc Sprocket]

Yeah- I'm seriously wiped out, too. I been working like an absolute DOG this week, a very demanding demolition job. Took the roof off a building that burnt pretty good. AND, we had a snowstorm at it took me 3 hours to get home from work. If I tried to draw right now, it'd look like a Picasso impression of a bowl of chow mein, I'm sure.

 

[chris_the_poser]

That sucks and I know what you mean I switched to thirdshift to help them out and I'm always tired but the good news is I might have found a diagram while at work last night that might help out I gotta get on my comp to post it so it will be up shortly.

 

[IceMan198753]

Also, where can I find WIDE and tall rear tires and skinny short front tires?

 

[OzFab]

could you possible draw that and send me a pic of that. I think I understand what your saying but a drawing would REALLY help!

It would really help if I could draw! Perhaps another member could jump in with a sketch?

I would but, you lost me at

A few inches below that, is a shaft that runs horizontally"

lol thats great. i would but i got lost reading it. im a lil tired. maybe after my nap ill read it when i get up and make since of it

I've read it twice now & I still can't picture it

 

[Doc Sprocket]

Okay Tony, and the OP.

Picture a lateral shaft. It's under/behind the dashboard, and runs left to right, the full width of the body. For argument's sake, it is perfectly parallel to the rear axle. The pitman arm on the steering column connects via a short rod to an arm on that shaft. As you turn the steering wheel right and left, this causes the shaft in question to rotate forward and backwards.

A bit more clear?

 

[OzFab]

Ok, I've got that much; continue...

 

[chris_the_poser]

Well here is how one is set up I'll put these post together when I get on the comp
http://static.speedwaymotors.com/images/charts/how-parallelsteering.gif


This goes throuh the dash

http://www.vespaape.com/multipla/par...l/steering.gif

They use these steering boxes most of the time as well
http://www.rjays.com/Flaming_River/f...t-boxes-lg.jpg

 

[Doc Sprocket]

Ok, I've got that much; continue...

Right- so that lateral shaft protrudes through the cowl to the outside of the body, on the left hand side. On that end of the shaft, there is an arm pointing down. From that arm, there is a rod going forward to the axle.

have a look at this diagram I just messed with . It's rough, but it should get the point across.

 

[chris_the_poser]

really not that bad to put together at least it doesnt appear to be so. after reading through a couple build threads/blogs on this i kinda wanna build my own. here is another couple of links where the guy uses a shaft coming out the dash and going by the motor second link. the first link is mainly him setting it up initially. the last link is the steering almost finished.

http://www.possum.geek.nz/2009/06/d1_27.html
http://www.possum.geek.nz/2010/02/steering-part-one.html
http://www.possum.geek.nz/2010/03/steering-1.html

 

[Doc Sprocket]

That system there runs the steering column forward past the engine to a steering box on the framerail.

What I am proposing is more reminiscent of a "classic" hot rod set up, from the days when the steering box was inside, and a drag link ran forwards. In this case, the steering box is eliminated by the lateral shaft and rod. One could use a box if a small enough example could be found.

 

[chris_the_poser]

yeah i got what you were saying i was just throwing out other options as well. thats one cool looking ride

 

[Doc Sprocket]

Options are good. I'm just trying to illustrate my own concept, as it didn't come off very clearly earlier.

 

[OzFab]

Now I get it!

I also understand your concept poser; that system could be adapted to use a pitman arm instead of a steering box which attaches directly to the tie rods.

Both good concepts; it all comes down to what will fit I suppose...

 

[Doc Sprocket]

Thanks, Tony. It seemed dead clear in my head, and in my rough scribblings. I re-read my descriptions a few times, thinking I mis-wrote something.

 

[OzFab]

Our own ideas always seem straight forward in our own heads, the problem is trying to explain it so others get it.

Likewise, your written description will be crystal clear to you, you wrote it!

I currently have a concept I'm working on for the AusEx: If I tried to explain it to you (in my words) the response I'd get would probably be something along the lines of "huh?" or "wha?"

 

[IceMan198753]

That system there runs the steering column forward past the engine to a steering box on the framerail.

What I am proposing is more reminiscent of a "classic" hot rod set up, from the days when the steering box was inside, and a drag link ran forwards. In this case, the steering box is eliminated by the lateral shaft and rod. One could use a box if a small enough example could be found.

So how are they getting that flat bar to move front to back? Sorry, guys still a little confused.

 

[Doc Sprocket]

So how are they getting that flat bar to move front to back? Sorry, guys still a little confused.

Which bar? Maybe reference one of the posted pics?

I currently have a concept I'm working on for the AusEx: If I tried to explain it to you (in my words) the response I'd get would probably be something along the lines of "huh?" or "wha?"

Probably because of your accent...

 

[OzFab]

Probably because of your accent...

Yeah, coz the accent is really strong in written word