Street-legal electric go kart/car

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kibble

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60 volts and maybe 5 amps? If thats the case I can wire 20 of them togeather in parallel to protect them and get the desired effect.

Pot's are usually rated in watts, so you'd have to find high wattage pots, the voltage isn't so strict.

Remember, though, that with resistance, putting two resistors in parallel would be like dividing the value by the number of resistors you have, assuming they're identical values.

So if you have two 100k pots, putting two together would be like having a 50k pot. Three pots, divide by three, etc...

If you're gonna use 20, figure out the value that you'd need to have in the end and multiply it by 20 and that's the value you need to have each pot be.

I have never tried something like this myself, but it'd be interesting to see how it works out for you!

About the battery questions, I think it'd be best to get the specs about the particular battery you want to get. I don't know too much about batteries other than the higher the amperage the better! :arf:
 

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60v x 5a = 300w...
i think you could do that though
im thinking of doing the same thing on my electric kart, which is only about 1400w, so i could use a bunch of switches
 

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Actually, after reading this battery faq:

http://www.windsun.com/Batteries/Battery_FAQ.htm#Cycles vs Life

I've decided to go with a AGM battery. The battery I'm gonna use is at this link:

http://www.nationalsolarsupply.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=175

Also, If I use larger drive tires, will I get more speed? The reason I would like to use a CVT is to get the higher speeds without having to run the motor at it's max rpm.

I measured my Ford Ranger truck tires, and their total diameter is about 25 inches across. Will my motor of choice be able to move those within reason?

Thanx-
 

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its all relative, if you gear it a certian way you could turn 60 inch tractor tires. Find out what the max RPM of your motor is and gear it to go about 40 mid way through the RPM range.
 

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That'd be great! With 60-inchers in the back, and 10 inchers in the front, that'd be a hoot!

I'd get pulled over for sure, either It's illegal, or the cop wanted to get a closer look at the rig :)
 

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larger tires change your final drive ration, so smaller tires will give better acceleration but lower top speed, larger tires will be the opposite
 

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I've decided to go with a AGM battery.
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Also, If I use larger drive tires, will I get more speed? The reason I would like to use a CVT is to get the higher speeds without having to run the motor at it's max rpm.

I'm no expert, but if my research is correct, you're probably better off with flooded batteries. Your original requirements seem to stress range and top speed over acceleration. AGMs are better for acceleration, but worse for range. Like others have said, freeway speeds for 70 miles is pretty tough to get, especially with bad aerodynamics. For my project, I'll probably go with AGMs, but my requirements are for better acceleration and lower range than yours.

As far as acceptable depth of discharge and number of cycles goes, that's going to vary with the type of battery. IIRC, flooded is more robust than AGM and will handle abuse better. If you can, get batts that are designed for EVs (eg golf carts) or make sure they're tough enough for EVs. Other types will not do well with the extreme demands of an EV.

Larger tires might get you better top speed, but it might not. Larger tires are heavier. Either way, you'll probably have to have some kind of gear reduction, whether it's sprockets and chain or a car-type differential.

Gearing an EV for direct drive (no transmission) and high top speed can be tough. CVT sounds interesting. One thing I think you might have wrong is you seem to not want your motor to run at high RPM. From what I understand, most EV motors run cooler at higher RPM than lower, because of internal cooling that's less effective at low RPM and the higher current needed during acceleration. What I've heard is that people use transmissions in EVs to minimize accelerating at low RPM. Accelerating obviously stresses the motor, and when it's at low RPM, it's worse.

If you haven't already, you might want to spend some time checking out EV sites. There's more than one DIY-type forum. You'll find a lot of info about what vehicles need to get freeway speeds and long range. Your original post asked about 48V and Etek. IIIRC, motorcycles with 48V and Eteks do about 45 mph and maybe 30 miles-no where near your target. For a lot of examples of EVs, check out the EV Photo Album. Watch out for predicted performance. Results don't always measure up.

It sounds like your goals are similar to mine. I hope your project works out for you!
 

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Electric motors are not like gas engines. High RPM does not cause extra wear or things to break. There is no pistons or rods, just a spinning shaft with coils. It's the bogging down to a lower RPM that burns up the motor, and on top of that, a motor pulls MORE amps at lower RPM.

Look into RC cars and you'll see what I mean. Also, a potentiometer wastes power as heat. A controller uses PWM (pulse width modulation) to vary the amount of average power into the motor.
 

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do a reverse trike, reg as a motorcycle

there is an etek with controller on ebay for about $600

http://cgi.ebay.com/Etek-Motor-Sevc...5|66:2|65:12|39:1|240:1318|301:1|293:1|294:50

you don't need the torque converter, motor characteristics are wrong for use with E motor, you will lose effciency and range!!!!

keep the weight down and use motorcycle wheels and brakes

you should see 15 peak HP and 17 ft/lbs of torque with a 48 volt etek and you want to be able to deliver 300 plus amps for short times to get the max out of that setup!!!

read up on JQ riley's website re the stability of reverse trikes... must keep the weight closer to the two front wheels and low, wider front is more stable.

I'm working on a similar setup

D&D sepEx motor model Es-32A-50 and 450 amp sevcon controller 30 plus peak HP and approx 65-70 foot lbs of torque

6 75 amp hr batteries, est 50 mile range. est finished weight 1000+ lbs (I'll add my 6, 21 amp gell cells as well for add'l range, see below)

I'm also setting up the same motor and controller on my Sodi DD2 chassis for autocross with 6, 21 amp hr gel cells....

UPS delivery scheduled for the motor/controiller... 1/26/09! YUP TODAY!!!!!!:cheers2:

Dan
 
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already did... you posted this earlier in this thread... some interesting iron....
 
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