Silver Fox and a Bald Guy

[ct_racer]

Hey Everyone. I've read random stuff on here for years. There's great info on here for a lot of different aspects of fab and engineering.

I recently received a free engine (pred 301), which I fear is going to end up costing me dearly. Starting with an ok deal on a Silver Fox roller I picked up last night. There have already been some interesting design choices on this one (mainly the rear wheels/tires), that I'm planning to tone down a bit.

There will be a lot of phases to the build, the first being going through everything to make sure its safe, then getting it driving.

Ultimately, I'm feeling 2 seater FL Odyssey vibes for inspiration, and I think the second phase would be figuring out wheels, tires, hubs, brakes, all that. I have a lot of other ideas as well (my mind is actually churning non-stop on this one), but let's start with the basics.

This is also a build with and for the kids who will need to grow into it a bit. Teach them some wrenching skills in a way where mistakes aren't terribly expensive to recover from, teach them some driving/off roading, have them learn to not touch the muffler, all that fun stuff.

We have a trail network to run it on, with some decent hills. Some areas to run it out, and others that are a little more technical. Should be a lot of fun for all of us hopefully.

More to come!

 

[Whitetrashrocker]

Awesome kart.
A predator 301? Should be enough to move that along.

Builds are fun cause they change plans in the middle.

 

[ct_racer]

Awesome kart.
A predator 301? Should be enough to move that along.

Builds are fun cause they change plans in the middle.

Thanks! Yep a pred 301! Still in the box and everything. First step is figuring out a torque converter. I'll have to figure out the rest from there.

It'll be fun getting the kids involved in some design decisions when we start getting to that point.

 

[Whitetrashrocker]

40 series will bolt right up to that 301. Its a 1" output shaft.
They now have some hop up parts for the 301 now. When I built mine there was none. I P&P and decked the head, a little timing advance, a slide carb and open header. Its puts a smile on ya for sure.

 

[ct_racer]

I've been looking at 40 series. All the Chinese clutter on amazon makes it hard to know what will work best. From what I'm seeing most of those are 30 series with a 1 inch input bore. I've found some 40 series, but they don't have the mounting/jackshaft plate. I'll be looking at the engine a little closer tonight, and hopefully finding something that will work.

I assume I need a specific comet belt for a 40 series vs the 30 series belt.

 

[Denny]

You will need a 40 series a 30 on that big and heavy of a kart with a torquey 301 will never last. Adding a jack shaft is not rocket surgery. There are kits made for that. I see nothing wrong with the rear tires. As for not touching a hot muffler, the kids will have to learn that all on their own, just like a stove.

 

[ct_racer]

You will need a 40 series a 30 on that big and heavy of a kart with a torquey 301 will never last. Adding a jack shaft is not rocket surgery. There are kits made for that. I see nothing wrong with the rear tires. As for not touching a hot muffler, the kids will have to learn that all on their own, just like a stove.

Just like we all needed to learn, lol.

These were my thoughts as well on the 40. Trying to find something that isn't just a 30 with a larger bore is proving to not be as straight forward as I'd hoped. I'll hopefully get something figured out in the next day or two though, and I can figure out the rest of the details once I've got something in the garage as a starting point.

 

[ct_racer]

Been a while so I wanted to share a progress update. Slow. Progress ahs been slow. With kids, house stuff and spring time maintenance, sports etc. the calendar is full. Also doing some car fixes which is eating into kart build time.

Front suspension is apart and cleaned up, we just need to regrease and reassemble. Next up I need to pull the steering fully apart and figure out why it's binding up. Hoping to do that and ideally fix it this weekend.

The kids have been helping which ahs been great. They didn't seem too interested in the helping part at first, so I told them they need to help if they want me to build it for them, otherwise I'm going to build it for me and it will be too much for them to be able to drive it. They got on board pretty quick after that, and I think were actually enjoying doing parts cleanup with me.

Also just bought a welder, which really opens up some doors for fabrication. I'm planning to add a handbrake (with a momentary kill switch) so I stop the thing if they're getting themselves into trouble while learning to drive it; call that self preservation. We have some great trails to use it on up north, but there are definitely parts you need to have some off-roading knowledge or you'll get into trouble.

Unfortunately, it's looking like I got scammed trying to buy a torque converter out of the for sale forum here, so I'm out $100 and still need to find a working part. I think I've found one on Amazon I like, but I'll hold off on that until I'm a little closer to getting the motor mounted.

Hopefully I'll have some more updates to share after this weekend!

 

[Hellion]

it's looking like I got scammed trying to buy a torque converter out of the for sale forum here,

I saw that and I am sorry. We have no way to vet these people other than post count and/or a long membership here which this person was low in both. I’ve seen member trust scores on other sites that allow buying and selling….

I guess the ban hammer will come down on Eymar7 very shortly.

 

[ct_racer]

I guess the ban hammer will come down on Eymar7 very shortly.

I'm guessing he's long gone from the forum anyway, but I really do appreciate the sincerity and action.

It happens, lessons learned on my end. I'll have to be smarter about things in the future.