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r_chez_08

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Yeah- we're metric, too. But we still get raped for fuel... 3.785 l/gal... if ya wanna get all technical! LOL

And to make it more confusing, in the UK, it's 4.546L/Gallon

Petrol here is around £1.40, and diesel is around £1.50, per litre! Thats around $2.50 a litre!
 

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Most of that is tax- red diesel is 60-70p or around that a litre. Shame you get fined a lot of money for using it on non- agricultural vehicles.
 

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NO FOWLER!!!!!!! dont say our fuel is cheaper....The government might see it and put some more taxes on it lol

So wait, in the US and UK a gallon is different? :( that means my electrolysis mix has been wrong the whole time :(
 

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Yep, Americans thought they would be different and have a smaller pint ;) maybe it was a method to cut down on food and drink aha (joke :) )
There are 8 pints in a US gallon and an 'imperial' gallon.
1 US pint = 473ml
1 imperial pint = 568ml.
 

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jman what are your prices like over there

weve always gone by the princibal that the cheapest fuel is in a mining town (companys pipe it in massive quantitys cheaply)

and the most expensive is a torist town( torists dont have a choice gotta keep the car moving)

on a differant note why did the us have to hacve a differant system to the world it is mind boggling
thatll show the English we will rebel and fill our beer glasses 100ml less
then they will have no choice to give us independance
 

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Not 100% sure to the cent, around 150 cents though. Think I saw e10 for 146 the other day. Newcastle (where I'm at, dunno where my location went in my details thing lol), is a mining town anyway, theres usually nothing but ships off the coast waiting to get coal hahaha.

I completely agree, whats wrong with being normal? So wait, is the non metric system known as the imperial system elsewhere? Considering it seems its all a rebellion against the empire hahaha.
 

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At yeah u are the biggest coal mining region

We are techinically a tourist town but the closest coast for a mining region
So we have a huge fuel depot and export rare earth and iron ore
 

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Around here there are three grades, regular (87 octane) premium (89 octane and 10%ethanol) and then ultra (92 octane) right now the price for regular $3.34, 38 cents tax per gallon. You should not use the ethanol blend in these little motors it will eventually eat through the fuel line and maybe clog carb with the junk that comes from the fuel line. It might take a year or more for this to happen but it will. Snowblower and lawn mower both did it about 3 years ago, changed fuel lines and changed to ultra and no problems since. Ethanol is not compatable with some of the rubber and seals in some of the fuel systems in any type of vehicle that is why they only use 10 to 15% in the fuel. E85 (85% ethanol) is bad for any system that is not made for it.
 

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Yep, Americans thought they would be different and have a smaller pint ;) maybe it was a method to cut down on food and drink aha (joke :) )
There are 8 pints in a US gallon and an 'imperial' gallon.
1 US pint = 473ml
1 imperial pint = 568ml.

Really? I didn't know that! Interesting!


jman what are your prices like over there

weve always gone by the princibal that the cheapest fuel is in a mining town (companys pipe it in massive quantitys cheaply)

and the most expensive is a torist town( torists dont have a choice gotta keep the car moving)

on a differant note why did the us have to hacve a differant system to the world it is mind boggling
thatll show the English we will rebel and fill our beer glasses 100ml less
then they will have no choice to give us independance

Who knows. We've moved to metric on so many things, mainly because we import so many things:censored:


Ethanol is not compatable with some of the rubber and seals in some of the fuel systems in any type of vehicle that is why they only use 10 to 15% in the fuel. E85 (85% ethanol) is bad for any system that is not made for it.

That has very little to do with the percentage of ethanol in gasoline. E85 can't be used in engines designed for regular gasoline because the ethanol requires a significantly richer mixture than gasoline. The stoichiometric ratio of gasoline is 14.7:1, while the stoichiometric ratio of ethanol is 9:1. Fuel injected engines designed to run on regular gasoline will adjust the a/f mixture based on readings from O2 sensors, but they can only adjust so much. Anything much past 10% and the PCM can't adequately adjust the a/f mixture. Using more than E10 will void the warranty on most modern cars. Automakers will not allow E15 at this point because they aren't designing their cars to run on it.

The FlexFuel vehicles you see are designed to give the PCM greater control over a/f mixture. The fuel injectors can vary their output much more than regular injectors. This allows them to compensate for the difference in stoichiometric ratio of E85.

Now, for those of us still running carbs in our vehicles, E10 presents a bit of a problem. Beyond the problem of hoses, seals, and gaskets, with stock jetting, the a/f mixture will burn lean. The 4bbl Holley I added fixed that, though:sifone:
 

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Our petrol works out to be about $1.53/l. It is really starting to hit everyones pockets HARD. Each time the fuel goes up, the price of food and everything else goes up too. Most goods shipped by road, so it has a knock on effect.

You don't see the price of food come down though when the fuel does. GREEDY SUPERMARKET OWNERS!!!
 

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Our petrol works out to be about $1.53/l. It is really starting to hit everyones pockets HARD. Each time the fuel goes up, the price of food and everything else goes up too. Most goods shipped by road, so it has a knock on effect.

You don't see the price of food come down though when the fuel does. GREEDY SUPERMARKET OWNERS!!!

Definitely agree there, I had a look today, the price is roughly the same here for normal ULP. We've had the supermarkets dropping the prices on major items like milk, bread and stuff though because of competition between the two majors. It's driving all the independent shops out though. Ironically the same is happening with our petrol stations lol. $2 for 2 litres of milk is alright though....Someone needs to make a car that runs on milk LOL
 

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My dad owns a dairy farm, if someone managed to produce a milk powered engine, we would be minted! The milk price would double!

So I guess the UK is being ripped off more than anywhere else for petrol? That is why I want to run my first car on ethanol. I worked out that in a years worth of driving I would burn approx. £2000's worth of petrol!
Anyone know the price of ethanol, and where you would get it from? (I'm not taking e85 from the pump, I was planning on 100% or mixing my own mix. Then re jetting the carb and jacking up the compression.)
 

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Ha it's killing the producers dropping prices

It's a shame we weren't organised and mental like the French

Just tip the milk on the ground burn the fields drive tractors into the centre of the capital and firebomb the shops

I must spend $7800 on deisel a year
Dam land cruiser
I think most of it goes out the back as black smoke
 

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Just use regular gas. There is no benefit using higher octane fuel. That's what these engines were made to use.
 

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I worked out that in a years worth of driving I would burn approx. £2000's worth of petrol!

I just filed my tax return. This past year, I burnt about $8000.00 in fuel for work.

You should not use the ethanol blend in these little motors it will eventually eat through the fuel line and maybe clog carb with the junk that comes from the fuel line. It might take a year or more for this to happen but it will.

I really don't find this to be much of a problem. Our "regular" grade fuel (87 Octane) contains 10% Eth. On all my small engines, I shut off the fuel tap and run the carb dry every time I'm shutting it down for more than a day. Maybe that's why I have had zero carb, fuel line, or seal issues... Or maybe I'm just lucky. Or something...
 

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in my snowmobile i ran the 89 octane gas because it only contained 5% ethanol. my trucks get 91 octane gas because it is suppose to contain no ethanol which i think is bad for engines. one thing i can say for sure is my 81 ram starts right up when i hop in it even if it has been sitting for a week.
 

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Fowler, you're lucky. Over here (at retail level) we average about 10 cents/litre more for premium vs regular unleaded. The difference adds up quickly.

i have a old mango go krat the brake stay down push it the go krat wont stop how i fit it.
 
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