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hay guys. got an email from someone and they asked if it was possable to use an oil treatment in small motors.
They asked if it would be ok to use something like "Dura lube" mixed in with the oil for better lubrication.
I didnt know if that stuff ( on any extra add-in mix ) was ok for small motors ...they are thinking of useing a 5.5 B&S for a kart.
 

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Think about this:
If the additive is so good for the engine, why don't oils companies and car manufacturers either add it to the oil or recommend it.
 

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because another company makes it.... if he wants to clean the engine tell him to pour some seafoam in there...
 

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Think about this:
If the additive is so good for the engine, why don't oils companies and car manufacturers either add it to the oil or recommend it.

maybe because they also own the company that makes the additives and they want you to buy them
 

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Pretty much all motor oil manufacturers formulate their products using some form of additional additives. I'd imagine all these different oil manufacturers have to reach some sort of compromise between which type of additives will both work well, and also be priced to allow them to profitably sell their final product in their targeted price range.

I don't know a whole lot about any of these oil additives sold at auto parts stores (like Dura Lube and many other brands) but I've done a lot of research on motor oils specially formulated to be used in high RPM racing 4-stroke kart engines.

After my research I came to the conclusion that if your running a stock kart/industrial type engine with the governor intact at 3600rpm, you'll probably be fine using whatever oils the engine manufacture recommends. (and If you wanna pour in some extra additive that's truly a good product, it'll probably help the oil work better) But for these industrial engines that are race prepped to turn much-much higher RPM's, Its better to use some of the oil brands that are formulated/sold especially for 4-stroke kart racing engines.
Here's a link to few of those: http://www.google.com/products?sour...sult_group&ct=title&resnum=12&ved=0CDkQrQQwCw

I've ran across lots of very credible sounding race kart engine builders/racers claiming that motor oils formulated to work just fine in a cars pressure-type oiling system aren't necessarily the best type for the splash-type oiling systems used in these high RPM kart race engines.

I don't wanna get into any debates on this subject here but If anyone's interested in doing their own research, I'd recommend they perform a search using the term oils at this race kart site: http://karting.4cycle.com/forumdisplay.php?f=81
(then just look for the thread titles that seem to be oil related)
You'll run across several posters on that forum that are very knowledgeable/professional race kart engine builders that truly know what their talking about.
 

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yeah, I can't see how an oil additive could adversely affect your engine. If it works on big ones, it should work on the small ones too. You might not use the same amount as if you were in a car engine.

If the additive is so good for the engine, why don't oils companies and car manufacturers either add it to the oil or recommend it.
Money. If synthetic oil is so much better for the engine, why would an oil company produce anything else?
 

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Hay great guys , thanks. it never dawned on me to use those engine/oil treatment things in a small engin but I guess its good to know.
 

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I am not aware that small engine manufactures are recommending detergent oil, is this recent or has it always been this way? It is to my understanding that detergent oil keeps metal particles and crap in suspension to be filtered out, most small engines don't even have an oil pump. Non detergent oil helps keep the crap from floating around and wearing things faster.
 
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