multiple gear transmissions?

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Anyone ever come up with a multiple gear trans, besides putting like a lawn mower transaxle on a go kart.
some thing that would have 4, 5 or 6 gears would be great as long as its not too big.
Like if a harley trans was not so expensive.
 

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As I've said on another post before, motorbike gearboxes used to be external from the engine. That means you could realistically hook them up to anything. It was chain to gearbox, kickstarter and gears on the box, and then chain to back sprocket.

Only problem is finding one cheaply. I guess if you looked around at moto wreckers and garage sales etc you could find one. Definitely the most effective way to do a gearbox on a normal non geared motor



Not my pic btw
 

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and not just a motorcycle motor. thats the easy way out.

I'd call it, "the practical way". Barring lawn tractor trannies, bike engine/gearbox combos, and other easy-way-outs, you're in for an uphill battle. You could look for a new custom motorcycle tranny, old Harley, old Royal Enfield, and probably others- but that's not my department. The vast majority of these items are going to cost a bomb, and probably weigh quite a bit. I have no idea what kind of box that is in the above picture.

Well, good luck to you- but IMO- why make it harder than it has to be?
 

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I have a buddy that cut the Trans part off of an iron head Sportster. It destroyed the Trans but I have a454 Kawasaki engine that is bad. Trans is great. I am going to take the plasma cutter to it this weekend and see if I can get the Trans of f. But the kick start is a good idea. I have a 250 dirt bike motor also that had a piston through the wall. But it has a chick start in the Trans....... the whole idea of this is to allow me to use a special I have. Its a Briggs that was built for racing. I also have an awesome lawn boy engine I want to use.
 

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Very interesting. Tell me about the Lawn Boy...

Its jsut a 150ish CC 2 stroke motor off of a lawn boy. They are pretty cool. no need to crank case oil, can be oriented in any direction. Shoot, moving the CDI you could even run it backwards I think.
I found another one at teh scrap yard today and I found a tiller with a tillotson carb on it so Im in business.
 

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Good score with the tillotson! I hava a 141cc 6.5hp DuraForce engine waiting in the wings for the right circumstances to occur. I recently pulled it off the mower deck and had a quick look at it. I'm unsure of what I want to do for a cab. I have a couple of GX200 stock carbs (meh), a couple old Tecumseh carbs with adjustable main needle jets (I like those) and a Mikuni available. We'll see.

We have a member here that has mastered the Lawn Boy engine. He has a LOT of applicable knowledge but unfortunately he hasn't been around lately. Hope everything's okay with him, I miss having him around.

I also have a Toro snowblower with the 141cc Briggs R*TEK engine. It is a piston-ported version of the DuraForce. But it works so well at clearing my walks, I refuse to rip it apart.
 

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yeah, I was just reading about the TOROs. I do believe.... there is a toro sitting next to the lawn boy a tthe scrap yard. It looked like an L head briggs, but those toro two strokes look like a L head briggs! Ill head back and check it out. I heard they are made by suzuki.
 

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Oh, OK. As per my gear box, I am going to run a chain drive to it. Pretty much like an old harley did. Meat grinder! So anything you have now with say a 42 chain, Ill make a 42 sprocket to go on the input. output on the other side. easy.
 

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We have a member here that has mastered the Lawn Boy engine. He has a LOT of applicable knowledge but unfortunately he hasn't been around lately. Hope everything's okay with him, I miss having him around.

What has happened to him. I have wondered about it a lot of late. I enjoyed his humour/lack of humour/directness
 

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What has happened to him. I have wondered about it a lot of late. I enjoyed his humour/lack of humour/directness

Is that the guy with the twin engine go kart? That thing is insane! Ahhhhhh.... SO I found another F engine at the scrap yard yesterday in great shape.... after looking at these motors side by side Im thinking .... building a twin! making an adapter and a housing to hold the engines together. kinda like a snow mobile engine..... Hmm now that I say that out loud doesnt sound so cool.
 

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Is that the guy with the twin engine go kart? That thing is insane! Ahhhhhh.... SO I found another F engine at the scrap yard yesterday in great shape.... after looking at these motors side by side Im thinking .... building a twin! making an adapter and a housing to hold the engines together. kinda like a snow mobile engine..... Hmm now that I say that out loud doesnt sound so cool.

Yup, thats Russ
 

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Not my pic btw

Where did you get that pic? Is there a story that goes with it? Very cool.

I plan to build a gearbox for a project of mine using the engine/gearbox from one of the Chinese Honda copy motorbike engines, I plan to simply remove the head, barrel, piston and rod, make a blanking plate for where the barrel used to bolt on, remove the flywheel and fit a sprocket there and cut the cases to suit.

Obviously, there'l be an imbalance there but single cylinder motors(what it will be coupled to) aren't exactly smooth running anyway. If it shakes to badly I'l lathe up a bar to go in place of the crank.

The great thing about all those Chinese engines is you get the choice of reverse (obviously a good thing on a kart!), semi auto if that's your thing and you could use a genuine Honda motor and get hi and low range. No idea how much torque these things can handle though.

When I do it, I'l document it. I'm yet to get a motor to experiment with.

Of course, it'd make much more sense just to use the whole bike engine but where's the fun in that? :D

Thanks

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I haven't gotten to cutting up my motor. now that its cold out and we arent out on the toys as often I think Ill get to the trans project soon!
 
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