Metal Shop Kart Pair

[firemanjim]

So, make new ones...

Only problem with making them is there's no material TO make them at the shop, and I need to get it myself... But, on the plus side, I am almost done with the axle flip! It went a lot smoother than I though, and with minimal modding of the leaf! Rgardless of how the rest of the build goes, I am DEFINITELY getting a shock bushing overhaul kit!

I might be able to help you out..... Can you post pics of the top view and side view of those mounts/brackets.....

 

[OzFab]

Only problem with making them is there's no material TO make them at the shop, and I need to get it myself...

The amount of 1/8" flat steel you'd need to make two brackets shouldn't cost you more than a few dollars, then it's a simple matter of a bit of fancy cutting, some bending & drilling & you're done...

I might be able to help you out..... Can you post pics of the top view and side view of those mounts/brackets.....

You're always ready to help, which is a good thing however, I refer to a phrase from the bible:

"Give a man a fish & he eats for a day; teach a man to fish & he eats for a lifetime"

Like me, you could probably whip them up in about ten minutes but, what does that teach the OP? He's in a metal class with an instructor; between them, they should be able to figure something out...

By all means, help out with the design but, IMO, in this case, it's better if you don't help any more than that...

After all, this is DIY go karts...

 

[BaselessEarth12]

At the level of metals I'm in, the "instructor" is more of a "supervisor"... But, I ordered a new cap-isomount. Also, I was EXTREMELY close to getting a full go kart that has everything but an engine, gas tank, and battery. Thing is, though, I have no clue who owns it, and didn't have a truck to haul it out of the woods... Also, instead of factory coil over shocks up front, would custom spring brackets and plow blade springs work? I have 2 kicking around that are a little shorter than the shock, and large enough in diameter to fit over the stock shock.

As for the A-arms, I am kindof thinking about either finding some old Ford Pinto arms, or asking if I could take a neighbor's Honda 400cc ATV off their hands as it hasn't moved in a few years judging by how far it and the plow it's behind are sunk into the ground.

 

[BaselessEarth12]

Just stumbled across this gem: http://www.vegascarts.com/product-p/eztxtkit-v.htm
Seems like this would come in handy for the engine swap! I'm thinking that it wouldn't be all that difficult to fab one myself, and not ridiculously expensive, either. If I could afford it, I'd go with a 29hp Vanguard motor, just for kicks and giggles... Or even a 500cc fan-cooled racing sled motor...

 

[firemanjim]

The amount of 1/8" flat steel you'd need to make two brackets shouldn't cost you more than a few dollars, then it's a simple matter of a bit of fancy cutting, some bending & drilling & you're done...



You're always ready to help, which is a good thing however, I refer to a phrase from the bible:

"Give a man a fish & he eats for a day; teach a man to fish & he eats for a lifetime"

Like me, you could probably whip them up in about ten minutes but, what does that teach the OP? He's in a metal class with an instructor; between them, they should be able to figure something out...

By all means, help out with the design but, IMO, in this case, it's better if you don't help any more than that...

After all, this is DIY go karts...

You are correct sir! But in this case, I was merely going to suggest an easy fix until he could afford the new one. Problem solved though.....

 

[BaselessEarth12]

Just went for a walk around town, and found a few nifty things: an old Honda FourTrax 4X4, a full set of 24X10/8-12r tires, a Carbide 150cc, and a dinosaur unknown go kart chassis (with everything but electronics, engine, or fuel tank)... I took a bunch of pics of each, but cannot upload them until later tonight, as I do not currently have a cord to upload from my camera. Should be pretty interesting!

 

[firemanjim]

Use 4 wheeler a arms...... Scrap the pinto idea.....

 

[BaselessEarth12]

The way of the Pinto was my grandfather's idea (he had a Pinto station wagon that he took everywhere it shouldn't have been able to)... But, without further a-due, here be the pics!













Aaaaaaaand they don't work! Because I'm a bit of a scrub when it comes to these things, and took too large of pictures... Ballocks... I'll have 'em by tomorrow, though!

 

[BaselessEarth12]

I lied... Camera died before I got a chance to retake them...

 

[Poboy kartman]

I use Image Shrink Lite to downsize my photo....free download......

 

[BaselessEarth12]

Huh. Well, I know what I'm working on once I get home from ACT testing!

 

[BaselessEarth12]

Wasn't able to get it to work... But, I found a pair of seats for it (Subaru WRX sedan front buckets), got the replacement isomount, and got the motor mount tabs cut and drilled for installation to the swing arm.

I found an interesting kit (http://stretchplastics.com/Links/PDF_Instructions/E-7-12.pdf) that seems like it's easy enough to build myself once I get what I have running and off the ground. As for the front, I have found another kit (http://stretchplastics.com/Links/PDF_Instructions/E-7-04_E-7-06.pdf) that is PERFECT for designing my own front end around the bell crank steering system.

The tires and wheels I want are somewhat extravagant (Carlisle Titan AT489 http://www.amazon.com/489-23x8x10-T...F8&qid=1414935925&sr=1-7&keywords=titan+at489 ; Raceline Scorpion http://www.amazon.com/Raceline-Scor...1?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=1413932231&sr=1-21). Friend of mine liked the wheels, and I already have 2 practically brand new Titans on my long since dead Toro lawn tractor. But first thing's first: my other friend needs to get me my freakin' engine!

 

[BaselessEarth12]

Good news, everyone! I've got the custom rear crossmember of the soon-to-be-skeleton of the new subframe welded and milled to fit! The driver's side mounting plate was a little crooked, so I had to mill a small part of it off to get it to fit. The holes still lined up, though! I also have a template for the "shorty" steering column most of the way drawn out. I WILL have pictures of my progress uploaded tomorrow!

 

[firemanjim]

Wasn't able to get it to work... But, I found a pair of seats for it (Subaru WRX sedan front buckets), got the replacement isomount, and got the motor mount tabs cut and drilled for installation to the swing arm.

I found an interesting kit (http://stretchplastics.com/Links/PDF_Instructions/E-7-12.pdf) that seems like it's easy enough to build myself once I get what I have running and off the ground. As for the front, I have found another kit (http://stretchplastics.com/Links/PDF_Instructions/E-7-04_E-7-06.pdf) that is PERFECT for designing my own front end around the bell crank steering system.

The tires and wheels I want are somewhat extravagant (Carlisle Titan AT489 http://www.amazon.com/489-23x8x10-T...F8&qid=1414935925&sr=1-7&keywords=titan+at489 ; Raceline Scorpion http://www.amazon.com/Raceline-Scor...1?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=1413932231&sr=1-21). Friend of mine liked the wheels, and I already have 2 practically brand new Titans on my long since dead Toro lawn tractor. But first thing's first: my other friend needs to get me my freakin' engine!

Not to be used off road or on carts that go over 19mph......

 

[BaselessEarth12]

True, neither kit is meant to do either, but I would be building both COMPLETELY differently from scratch, and with far greater reinforcements. Also, the final product will more than likely have more mounting points holding it to the chassis. Anyway, without further adue, here are the pics of the most recent progress! The middle picture is my stencil for the base of a custom steering column, which I've dubbed the "shorty", as it's less than 8" tall. The last 4 pics are of the driver's side front mount, the custom lift block (which is just a 5/8" steel plate with holes drilled in it), and what it looks like out back now that the rear is mostly finished, and lastly my sweet maple bench seat.

 

[firemanjim]

I hope you're not using that angle iron with holes in it, for your front end.....

 

[landuse]

I hope you're not using that angle iron with holes in it, for your front end.....

Me too. The rest of the kart looks good, why compromise it with that stuff

 

[lyfesaver]

I hope you're not using that angle iron with holes in it, for your front end.....

I too, agree. If this is your plan... this plan is not a good one! Other than that I say, awesome work and keep it up!!!!

 

[BaselessEarth12]

The angle iron is just a temporary rig to keep the wheels straight for the measurements. The two longer pieces are also working very well at keeping the wheels from rolling around too much. But, I will be using those pieces for a mounting bracket of a custom shifter! It's like the one from Jake's Lift Kits, only FAR cheaper, FAR easier to install, and FAR more badass!

 

[BaselessEarth12]

Good news, everyone! The engine has finally arrived! It is an older Arctic Cat Spirit motor! Not sure exact displacement, but it has a 60mm bore and stroke, so I'm assuming around 340cc's total. Either way, should be a fun, welcome addition to the cart in the long run! It seems a bit smaller than the stock motor, but then again, it does have more cooling fins, dual intake and exhaust ports, and has all of the electronics and the clutch!