Building a new toy with her approval

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G'day to everyone here on the forums. My first post but been reading a lot of useful information here.

I am about to attempt my first gokart build for my wife and 2yr old son to get around our small property. Basically I am thinking front and rear suspension compact side by side.

Inventory of parts i have gathered up from around the yard i need opion on. Engine I have a 6.5hp horizontal shaft clone or (and my favorite choice) an 18hp Lhead horizontally opposed twin B&S, vertical shaft. I have a peerless style transmission 5 speed with reverse from a junked 8hp rover rancher (i think similar to a Toro). To my untrained eye it appears to be the same unit used in the 13 &15hp models with manual trans. I also removed the rear axle from the same machine which may yield me 2 rims, the axle is junk. Lastly I have a rear differential which is also a peerless type unit from the rear of a cox ride on mower/tractor. The alloy casing in the center is about the size of a beer can and it only has 4 bolts holding it together they are grouped into 2 groups of 2 on opposite sides if that makes sense or helps identifying it.

My concerns are whether the trans and my beer can differential will survive the L18. I really only need this thing to perform along the lines of a lawn tractor and hopefully be able to pull or 100litre spray tank on fairly flat even going or similar weight general purpose trailer. Which is why I am really wanting the torque of the L18 verse the clone. I really want to keep a differential in the plan for ease of steering tight low speed.

Basic plan at this stage is rear mount the L18 1" belt centrifical clutch. Make the belt do the transition to a swinging arm suspension setup adjusted by a spring loaded tensioner from a car serpentine belt setup. Mount trans to swinging arm, chain drive to beer can differential but will need axle extensions to make it out to side by side wheel track.
 

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:useless: What do you want a diff on there for There no good for off road :huh: It'll have great turning, but preformce will be bad once you get into Gravel, mud etc If you had pavment it would probably be fine. Theres a pretty good chance you'll only have one tire spinning most the time, That means you'll be getting Stuck lots especially pulling that 100 litres of water around :D Your better off to go with a solid axle and save your self some time. I asum you 50/50 know what a differential dose so here's a video to explain the rest. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yYAw79386WI& Lets see some pictures of all your junk you gatherd or this thread will DIE!!! Not kidding :D
 

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L18

Clone

Axle from rancher lawn tractor

Axle

Peerless differential and trans

Peerless trans and tag

Peerless differential tag
 

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Would you mind NOT posting each pic individually?

You can add up to ten per post..

and if there's nothing but pics you post, then please don't start a new post for that.
especially not eight consecutive ones...

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Is that transmission hydrostatic or a proper transmission with gears Eh!
 

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Ah okay still working on the photo adding thing thanks for the heads up.

5 speed geared transmission with reverse
 

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I'd take that transmission apart, Clean it, Inspect it, Replace oil Ect. But you probably knew that already :p
 

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Hehe yeah mate that's a good call. It is on the to do list. I read here somewhere that there is a chaininside that can be upgraded si I 'll have a go at that too i think.
 

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I have worked out the diff is a peerless 100. Due to it not being wide enough for the wheel track I need I am starting to think about shortening it further and building a independent rear suspension system. Anyone know of some small readily available uni joints and shafts. I spent some time on the weekend digging around in car wrecks for the steering shafts. But i am not confident that they are a good idea
 

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Been shop'n today. Only at the local tip but still i have netted most everything i need now to start.

What i decided with my gearbox option is to go with what I have because 2 of these mowers have the same transmission as a transaxle in them. So that gives me 2 complete sets of spare internals all 5 speed
 

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Lol, so not only do you get permission to build a kart but you get to bring home truckloads of 'stuff'. Nice!
 

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Riding Lawn Mower parts are a great choice for DIY Go Karts. :cheers2:

They give you lots to work with on the cheap.

Most just think about the motor, rims & tires & such but, there's so much more like bearings & hangers (for mounting the diff), switches, cables, connecting rods & levers, fenders, dash boards, bits & pieces.

The best thing is different mowers give you different stuff, even design ideas.

I've used 'em for years :thumbsup:

from my experience:

...if you use a riding mower trans your speed will resemble a riding mower.

you can play around with pulley sizes & stuff but, when you make a gain one direction (speed) you usually lose some in another (torque)

...using a vertical shaft engine complicates the build & you loose some power in the conversion to horizontal.

...differentials will work in many applications, unless your actually off roadin' (jumpin' & such)

Here is a kart that I built with a differential, bearings & hangers off a Simplicity Cavalier rear engine rider.
 

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Lol yeah I got to bring home piles of stuff. But i did say i was going to pick up "a" lawn mower.

Functional artists that is a fantastic build there. You are correct about all the little things that you can use. You make a good piont there
 
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