3D Motorsports is BACK!

[mckutzy]

The first was really able, being a cone clutch.... the second gen as we now see it the 3d one... it has plates so it is able to slip and feather it as needed...

 

[mckutzy]

NO edit......

Wasnt able.....

 

[karl]

The first Wasnt really able, being a cone clutch....

I did not know of this, do you still have yours or a picture?

 

[mckutzy]

I do have it still...
I'll try to up load a pic a bit later...

 

[bob58o]

I'm not sure who else besides Joe-405 had the 3D clutch here. And I'm not sure if he even used it it. IIRC he sold it or cancelled his order. He was going to use it on a drag bike but he wanted a clutch he could feather so he could use it as a pit bike. The ON / OFF nature of the clutch would not work for his intended use. I've heard from more people who didn't like it than from people who liked the clutch.

 

[mckutzy]

Ya it was an on or off... With not alot of experiance of driving a manual transmission operated vehicle... It was hard to use...
But I could bump start it with ease when I did stall it...
I just took these now.. but I downloaded a number of others from a number of sources that had it.....

 

[JTSpeedDemon]

What we really need is a manual wet clutch, just like a car. That would please everyone.

 

[mckutzy]

The clutches are not so much the real problem for us.. they work well for what we do...

Ideally a transmission is the ticket...... shift on the fly, relatively affordable, ability to accept the hardware we typically use( 40/41, 35 ect chain types)...
I see for the most part, it could also just be coupled with the standard centrifugal clutch we all use...

That would be nice...

 

[karl]

The ON / OFF nature of the clutch would not work for his intended use. I've heard from more people who didn't like it than from people who liked the clutch.

Am I missing something? thats why they got away from the cone style, and went with plates that can be feathered?
So he never tried it?

Yeah not for everyone, I think its best suited for a fun toy, clutch kicks and skids are fun.

For serious drag racing a regular centrifugal clutch would be much more predictable/repeatable.

If you drive like a grandma or normal person, probally not very fun.

When you have multiple vehicles with CVTs, a different experience is refreshing.

 

[mckutzy]

Yes that exactly what happened...
I'm guessing it was cheaper to make the cone setup than the plated Verity...

 

[Kartorbust]

What we really need is a manual wet clutch, just like a car. That would please everyone.

You are confusing an automotive torque converter for a manual transmission dry clutch. A wet clutch in a vehicle would cause too much slippage and would be next to worthless. An automotive torque converter uses automatic transmission fluid as a hydraulic fluid to lock and unlock. A dry clutch allows for some slippage to get you going.

 

[JTSpeedDemon]

Ahhhhh, Ok. Yeah I was probably a little mixed up. I thought automotive clutches were wet.

 

[bob58o]

Am I missing something? thats why they got away from the cone style, and went with plates that can be feathered?
So he never tried it?

Yeah not for everyone, I think its best suited for a fun toy, clutch kicks and skids are fun.

For serious drag racing a regular centrifugal clutch would be much more predictable/repeatable.

If you drive like a grandma or normal person, probally not very fun.

When you have multiple vehicles with CVTs, a different experience is refreshing.

I'm trying to find the posts where Joe talks about the clutch, but this search function is only showing me 3 posts where Joe used the word clutch. Hhhmmm???

It is my understanding that the 3D manual clutch could not be feathered. It is either disengaged or locked up. I don't remember if he tried it, or if the people at 3D motorsports explained how it would work to him. I did find that he machined a 420 crank down to 3/4" to use this clutch on. The clutch was set up for 80hp (according to his post). The engine and clutch got sold. I think it was a Nitro44 or Nitro50 build if you care to search the hard way.

 

[Joe-405]

wasn't that all they are good for? as in no slip like a normal clutch basically for drag racing?

I had one. They sucked on that also ! They were too violent. They did not work well at all on drag racing either. I know of one person that figured it out a little bit.

so mine got sold before I got to try it.

 

[Joe-405]

I'm trying to find the posts where Joe talks about the clutch, but this search function is only showing me 3 posts where Joe used the word clutch. Hhhmmm???

It is my understanding that the 3D manual clutch could not be feathered. It is either disengaged or locked up. I don't remember if he tried it, or if the people at 3D motorsports explained how it would work to him. I did find that he machined a 420 crank down to 3/4" to use this clutch on. The clutch was set up for 80hp (according to his post). The engine and clutch got sold. I think it was a Nitro44 or Nitro50 build if you care to search the hard way.

It was my mini me Dragbike build towards the end for the build off. I think 2016 ????

I just looked there was another post about someone asking and that’s where I had a few choice words about it at bob. I can’t remember what thread or who posted it tho.