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yeah that's why I'm using some four wheeler tie rods for mine so i can adjust camber you should consider welding bungs on to the ends that accept heim joints...just an idea
 

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yeah that's why I'm using some four wheeler tie rods for mine so i can adjust camber you should consider welding bungs on to the ends that accept heim joints...just an idea

I welded nuts into the end of some 1" tubing, so they are adjustable., however, when I measured them, I had them at a different mounting point, so they are adjusted all the way in to fit the new mounting point. What I don't like is the mounting point for the frame. It needs to be out a couple inches, which of course means my arms are too long and need to be shortened.
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I didn't like the way the front end was working (again) so out came the angle grinder and off came the old stuff. This is the result. I have some cleanup to do, but it works much better. Almost no camber change now.

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Also, I got my new TIG welder set up and going. It makes much better welds than my $90 Harbor freight piece of junk. :D
 

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is your front suspension stiff? because mine is and i have a real similar setup its probably just the shocks i have though

Yes, I weigh 200 pounds, and I have to jump pretty high to get enough force to bottom it out. Mine are the Northern Tool shocks. I'm not sure how it will be once it's all finished. It'll be probably another 50 pounds heavier, but it'll have little kids in it, so it may be a pretty rough ride.
If it is too stiff, I will redo the upper shock mount to make it more vertical.
 

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Those shocks are no good they have 2" of compression and are rated at 520 lbs. Any quad shock would be better. Mounting them vertical would make them worse.
 

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I was surprised at how stiff they are. They are sold at Northern Tool as "go cart shocks"
I don't mind the travel, this thing isn't going to go fast enough to jump.
 

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If you lay them over to 45 deg. it will take 260 lbs to push the shock 1", so you could try to lay them over even more. This is not the best thing to do but it might be ok for bombing around the yard. This will also allow for more travel, Some what like this. http://www.tdsracing.nl/crosskarts.html
 

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Thanks, I had it backwards in my head, but I can see how more angle allows for more leverage. I'll move it to the inner set of holes and see if that is enough for the kids weight. May be an update tonight, I'm working on steering today.
 

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wait so the closer to the wheel the more leverage the arm has(easier to compress)? i thought if the shock was mounted further from the wheel side it would compress easier...
 

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A shallower angle will put more leverage on the shock. I would only be moving the top in, which will lower the ground clearance, and put the shock closer to horizontal.
 

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Finally got back to work on this. I redid the mounting of the spindles, and completely tore the steering apart and set it up with a system that would be better suited to a solid axle, but it works, and at the speeds this will be going, bump steer won't be an issue. So here are the pics.
 

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:ack2: Maybe it's the camera angle, but it looks like your steering shaft is a fixed length (i.e. rigid), but is close coupled to your spindle which is mounted on your A-arm, which is supposed to move. It also doesn't have any support at the business end, where the tab is. That looks like a big problem; one good bump, and you have no steering. If you have a better view that proves me to be just a worry wart, please show us.:oops:
 

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You know, your worse than me for not leaving stuff well enough alone. Whats this, the third revision for the front? :D
 
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