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    Briggs choke help needed

    It’s been hit with air in each crevice after every time I’ve pulled and sprayed it. It’s not the matter of buying a new carb. It’s become the principle of the thing. I will not let it beat me. The lemon juice boil is neat. I haven’t heard of that one!
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    Briggs choke help needed

    Got it ‘sid. You’ve saved me again. I already know it will not run unless choked with the mixture full rich. At least I know I’m not crazy. This is the biggest SOB carb I’ve ever seen in my life. It has been cleaned multiple times with over a full can of carb cleaner and wire picks. Maybe I’ll...
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    Briggs choke help needed

    Here’s the pics. They aren’t great but hopefully you can see what you need. Thank you itsid for the adjustment procedure. The choke is completely separate on this model and I have to be able to open it fully before proceeding with mixture and idle adjustments.
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    Briggs choke help needed

    The carb to tank has a new gasket. Tubes are open. It will idle down ok, but only at that 3/4 choke sweet spot. I’ll get you pics but it will be a day or two. I’m frustrated and need to step away from it for a bit. Thanks!
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    Briggs choke help needed

    She’s a completely stock engine. Spark seems good and I’m gapped properly. There is only 1 mixture screw on it. Thank you for the reply.
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    Briggs choke help needed

    Hey all. I’m in need of your knowledge. I just rebuilt a new to me Briggs 5hp model 135202. Everything looked really good and is in specs. I lapped and adjusted valves, new gaskets everywhere etc. The engine will only run strong at 1 very specific point at about 3/4 choke while sitting in...
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    Introduction from Iowa

    Old briggs flathead specifically. I know you referenced clones when stating about sacrificing springs but this happened to me while reassembling my old flathead. It's all sorted now. I had to remove them again to dump some ATF down the valve guides to loosen up the stiffness. They move...
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    77 Flathead 130212 Throttle linkage with Governor

    You're correct again, thank you. I did not see that as the return spring. My carb doesn't look exactly like that one but very close. Makes sense now. The point is...... don't connect direct to the butterfly if using the governor, let it do that work and find any other place where there's...
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    Introduction from Iowa

    I put the longer and stiffer one on the exhaust side because that seems logical. On my model, there is a clear and definite length and strength difference. The longer stiffer spring has 6 evenly spaced coils and the shorter, weaker spring has 3 coils that are more squished together on one end...
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    77 Flathead 130212 Throttle linkage with Governor

    Yup, you're correct. It is a control arm and not the butterfly but the same principle still applies. It's just a lever with linkages and springs. What I mean is that my wrist strength to hold the throttle in position where I want it is much stronger than the little springs on the governor...
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    Introduction from Iowa

    This reply leads me to another question. Does the intake or the exhaust get the longer valve spring? I would assume the longer is for exhaust but..... When I tore the engine down I put all bolts, valves etc in cardboard templates like a good boy and then knocked over the one holding the...
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    77 Flathead 130212 Throttle linkage with Governor

    Ok, Thank you for posting that! I've seen that set up in several pics but my question is how would the governor be able to function if I'm holding the throttle cable statically? if the Governor wants to kick in, it will stretch the spring which would normally close the throttle down but it...
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    Introduction from Iowa

    Yes, It was the Doc Sprocket thread! I'm on the fence about my governor. I would like to keep it on my flathead if I can figure out where to put my throttle and keep the kill and choke functions on the Choke a matic. I posted this question in the engine forums here as well as OMB but no hits...
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    Introduction from Iowa

    I think it was in reference to a thread regarding governor removal if I'm not mistaken. I just remember someone saying "in the other forum" and referenced here so I came to check this one out.
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    Introduction from Iowa

    Hello all. I'm Derek from Des Moines, IA. I just joined here after reading about this forum on OMB. I have (what I think) is an old Bird mini with a 2.5hp Greyhound on it. It runs and drives is about to get a nice paint makeover in a few weeks. I recently purchased an old Briggs...
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    77 Flathead 130212 Throttle linkage with Governor

    Hi all! I'd like to use your knowledge please. I recently purchased a 1977 flathead model 130212 and would like to keep the governor along with the top Choke/run/stop controls (This is a Choke a matic carb) but also have remote throttle for my minibike. I'm not sure how to accomplish...
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