(: Just SOME Of My Plans :)

[Kelly Wood]

Take this pic for example. (thanks Shaun of DIYgk forums)
First off, the clutch would be replaced with a torque converter. then upgraded TC spring and gear. Now that jackshaft is used to amplify either speed or torque(however you choose to gear it). Add 1 more and you should definitely see the difference in performance if the engine can handle the power needed.d Logic?

Yup, with that, um... logic (hard to say that word here and have it mean something)... you'll be doing a mighty 10 MPH. Sweet.

Then that predator will explode.

"If the engine can handle the power needed?" What does that even mean?

<-- if you see this, your post is either very cool... or people are just waiting for you to fail killer.

 

[Poboy kartman]

No.....allow me to spell "logic" for you: I G N O R A N CE with a Capital I.....(as in I is....)...

Logic based on misinformation or lack of information is just delirious drivel.

 

[ezcome-ezgo]

I want to see it done and Dude you can make it happen. Just go nuts with those jackshafts, man. Don't listen to the negative nancy's. Get all jackshaft crazy on that thing. Oh and ditto the thanks to Shaun on that techno marvel pic. It's pure illustration, nothing else. Haters gonna hate.

 

[FreeRunner15]

i really think it can be done too. different gearing than what is shown in the Pic but Yeah.

 

[Poboy kartman]

I ... HATE waiting on parts!

But anyways i'm debating on this torque converter. i read the whole description and i am aware this is not a Comet brand. But check it out and the amazing price too. http://www.ebay.com/itm/GO-KART-TOR...800843?hash=item5b1fc187cb:g:RbMAAMXQTT9Ru8dN
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Great price, huh? I thought so too. All it would need after That purchase is a bigger sprocket for the torque converter(16tooth) for high speed. Going for 50mph temporarily until i figure a way to make the steering not-so-sensitive unless im going on a straight away and then i will push for 55-60mph(highway use). Just imagining the happiness i would feel with all the power to the wheel. Then a live axle and then i would be complete after adding a jackshaft. .. or even 3. Yes, that's right... 3 jackshafts. The engine would be far and heavily upgraded by then it could definitely handle powering 3 jackshafts.and even then it would still do a wheelie

My Plans. And If They Can...It Will Go Through.

The first picture will be The Final JackShaft gear when i get done with it.
Do you like the idea of a gear stopper? It keeps the vehicle from rolling backwards or forwards. Even from being stolen. It will smoke your clutch or belts but at least it wouldn't be stolen. Big investment there.

The wheels are going to change soon. Real soon. Don't expect the rims to be the same for long. At least 1 will be different...temporarily until the other one arrives.

Why not just build it out of wood and bicycle wheels, that way the thief will get killed, and should they try to prosecute for manslaughter, you have all these posts your lawyer can submit as proof you are incompetent to stand trial because of mental illness.

 

[FreeRunner15]

"If the engine can handle the power needed?" What does that even mean?

Engine and Torque converter. If the engine puts out enough power and if an upgraded TC can handle transferring the power.

 

[ezcome-ezgo]

Engine and Torque converter. If the engine puts out enough power and if an upgraded TC can handle transferring the power.

Jackshafts is the answer. How are you able to see the trees in the forest Dude? All of us just see forest. Are you like some kind of nuclear engineer or something? Nows the time to show us some mad construction skills, Brother.

 

[chancer]

All of this from a guy who just last week asked "what parts do I need for a Dead axle"
Definetely IGNORANCE and Not LOGIC.
And you Sir are far from the Mad Scientist of Go Karts! That is extremely insulting to many many Talented builders here including but not limited to Kelly Wood, Slidwayz and Desert Dueler.
Look at their builds before you break your arm patting yourself on the back!

 

[Poboy kartman]

See.....he be playing....

He's got the master plan to shift between those 3 jackshafts.....

Problem is.....until he does...he's just all mouth....

I can draw a battleship in a toilet....doesn't mean I can put one in in real life....but....with enough Tequila....I can not only see one in the toilet....but puke on it.

As the saying goes: "Pics or it didn't happen...."

My money is still on the wooden bicycle wheeled kart that never happened either!

 

[kc8oye]

Wow... just wow.

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[Poboy kartman]

Jackshafts is the answer. How are you able to see the trees in the forest Dude? All of us just see forest. Are you like some kind of nuclear engineer or something? Nows the time to show us some mad construction skills, Brother.

WITHOUT a welder....BTW...?

 

[FreeRunner15]

My money is still on the wooden bicycle wheeled kart that never happened either!

I found a good deal on a metal frame so i abandoned it. Sorry but this metal frame will save me time and money.

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WITHOUT a welder....BTW...?

Neighbor down the road has one he will weld with for me. I just hope he's good with instructions.

 

[Kelly Wood]

I just hope he's good with instructions.

... let's hope he's good at a lot of things... starting with knowing when to walk away.

 

[jrbrtsn]

FreeRunner, every jackshaft introduces parasitic power loss (~8%), so you don't want any more than absolutely necessary. Also, conventional torque converters introduce even more parasitic loss, although I haven't been able to find any numbers on this. I suspect the losses are hideous at the minimum reduction (full speed) end of the TC's range.

If you want to go 60 mph, you'll probably need no less than 13 HP on a kart with centrifugal clutch and simple chain drive. If you use small diameter racing kart tires, you should not need extra reduction provided by a jack shaft. Going 60 mph in a kart which has not been professionally designed and fabricated is inadvisable. If you really want to go fast, the safest thing would be to buy a professionally built racing kart designed for that purpose, and wear all the safety gear when you drive.

Be Safe!

 

[FreeRunner15]

FreeRunner, every jackshaft introduces parasitic power loss

i have thought about that already and If iREALLY want to pull some torque and pick up torque quickly i will need to use a motorcycle chain and weld 3 sprockets together(or have the sprocket made 3 times thicker 4 if possible for same price). The way I'VE been talking lately...sounds like i might as well finish this thing off into a car. hmmmmmmmm

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FreeRunner, every jackshaft introduces parasitic power loss (~8%)

8x3jackshafts=24%= between 22% and 30% rough and max estimates.Still not bad at all since i'm going for speed After the frame and wheels get spread out so i have a much safer and better-handling wheelbase.Much less likely to flip after that.Much less.
Be Smart

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If you want to go 60 mph, you'll probably need no less than 13 HP on a kart with centrifugal clutch and simple chain drive. If you use small diameter racing kart tires, you should not need extra reduction provided by a jack shaft. Going 60 mph in a kart which has not been professionally designed and fabricated is inadvisable.

Be Safe!

Modifying engine is guaranteed. Will definitely reach 13 hp by then. With the gears for sure. If i get a refund off this order that MFG Supply charged me twice for...i will buy and install a torque converter. and modify the gear and spring if the spring is better-than-stock.

and Tires: When the car gets stanced right It will be road-ready for Speeds and Street Tires. Until then, OffRoad tires, it is.

 

[kc8oye]

Seems like if you want to do 60mph, just use a bigger engine... like a 3 cylinder polaris with their cvt from a snow mobile.. should be able to appoach 100mph with that setup. Forget the jackshafts

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**** a polaris 500cc from a sportsman atv will get you up to 55-60 mph. A Yamaha banshee 350cc twin cyl will get you 70mph STOCK

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[Poboy kartman]

i have thought about that already and If iREALLY want to pull some torque and pick up torque quickly i will need to use a motorcycle chain and weld 3 sprockets together(or have the sprocket made 3 times thicker 4 if possible for same price). The way I'VE been talking lately...sounds like i might as well finish this thing off into a car. hmmmmmmmm

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8x3jackshafts=24%= between 22% and 30% rough and max estimates.Still not bad at all since i'm going for speed After the frame and wheels get spread out so i have a much safer and better-handling wheelbase.Much less likely to flip after that.Much less.
Be Smart



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Modifying engine is guaranteed. Will definitely reach 13 hp by then. With the gears for sure. If i get a refund off this order that MFG Supply charged me twice for...i will buy and install a torque converter. and modify the gear and spring if the spring is better-than-stock.

and Tires: When the car gets stanced right It will be road-ready for Speeds and Street Tires. Until then, OffRoad tires, it is.

Car???? Kart???? Cart or Fart???? Just get something that runs on alcohol....

 

[kc8oye]

Heck...lets just make it a v8 powered kart!!!

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[FreeRunner15]

Car??? Just get something that runs on alcohol....

i That is one ingredient of the Magic Mix. That and the "heads" of a moonshine distillate.(a.k.a. methanol). Mixed with gasoline. It will MAINLY consist of gasoline. 1 pint with one ounce of alcohol and methanol.
Will need to attach a pump (handpump to pump air pressure) to the fuel container so the air-pressure will force the mix in the chamber EXACTLY LIKE forced induction...but for a carburetor.
Matter of fact...i will be getting a smaller fuel hose than i showed. I dont want to explode the motor.
3/32 tube would be MUCH more suitable LoL http://www.mfgsupply.com/gomini/gominifuel/gominifueltubing/vtc5.html

Short bursts. Remember...Short Bursts. Heat generates very quickly when using it. i'm sure a bunch of people can see where im going with this. Maybe not now..but later in the future.

 

[Poboy kartman]

I have a nephew that goes a quarter mile in under 8 seconds on alcohol....I also see a bunch of wannabes in the stands talking smack and running their mouths on alcohol....