ForceFed86
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Sure, all we have to do is brush aside the fact that it’s physically impossible... Then it could happen. 
Car engine in a go kart
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jandj
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There you go, crushing a young man's dream....and our entertainment.
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Many people talk and few do!
OzFab
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There's a fine line between genius & insanity...
I tend to disagree, nothing is impossible IF you know what you're doing...
crazykart
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...And 137 is below that genius line technically. So what was that about insanity? Lol sorry I had to.
...And 137 is below that genius line technically. So what was that about insanity? Lol sorry I had to.
In fact it's ABOVE the line.. 130 is enough to get a mensa membership.
frankly, Klaudio I doubt you'd qualify...
the iPhone apps are not official tests (just saying)
But to be fair... if it was the mensa test,
just let me know when and where you've been tested
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crazykart
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In fact it's ABOVE the line.. 130 is enough to get a mensa membership.
frankly, Klaudio I doubt you'd qualify...
the iPhone apps are not official tests (just saying)
But to be fair... if it was the mensa test,
just let me know when and where you've been tested
'sid
My apologies to mensa lol. I was referencing the Stanford–Binet Fifth Edition (SB5) classification that shows the genius level to start at 145, which is the first thing that poped up on Google via a quick search.
I just remember being told back in school, with the testing that they were using on us, that the genius tier started at 145.
Then again there are so many variations of testing procedures, and score tiers out there...
For instance, according to the information I'm viewing now about mensa testing there is no one set iq test.
Mensa's requirement for membership is a score at or above the 98th percentile on certain standardised IQ or other approved intelligence tests, such as the Stanford–Binet Intelligence Scales. The minimum accepted score on the Stanford–Binet is 132, while for the Cattell it is 148.[11] Most IQ tests are designed to yield a mean score of 100 with a standard deviation of 15; the 98th-percentile score under these conditions is 130.
Now this is all just what's coming up via a quick google, but mensa accepts the top 2 percentile correct? According to the bell curve I'm looking at that 2% starts at gifted or very advanced. Which on the Stanford–Binet Intelligence Scales, that I had previously googled, starts at 130, with the genius tier starting at 145.
So according to that, and that alone, which is what I originally was referencing, mensa accepts as low as 130, but 130 is not genius level, 145 is.
At least that's what I got out of it with the quick search I did, so don't burn me at the stake lol.
hehe you caught me.. Stanford-Binet classification slipped my mind... my apologies!
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crazykart
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No worries lol. There really are so many different testing standards and scoring tiers that it's nearly impossible to either know them all, or know which is more accurate lol
Poboy kartman
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We'll forgive you this time....we all make mistakes....but we'll never let you live down the time you accidentally walked into the womensa's restroom.....
machinist@large
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We'll forgive you this time....we all make mistakes....but we'll never let you live down the time you accidentally walked into the womensa's restroom.....
You know Doug, the way your mind works could earn someone a PhD just trying to map it out.....
ForceFed86
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At what point does it stop being a "kart" and start being a car?
A kart would have serious issues. Aerodynamics, wheel base , stability, power, cost etc etc... A kart isn't going to go 200mph with a rx-8 engine with an air filter... ever!
rushking19
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In all seriousness just buy a snowmobile engine, 2 cylinder or single rotor, it will have plenty enough power to scare the 
out of you
out of you
Well since most people around here call their buggies a kart.... *shrugs*
IMHO a kart is
unsuspended,
small wheeled,
single seated,
Although there are blurry edges of course (fun karts, race karts, yard karts ...)
if one "law" is broken.. okay still a kart..;
two "ahh... maybe, maybe not",
all three... not a kart.
(again IMHO!)
a full suspension dual seat off roader on 22" wheels to me is a buggy, not a kart!
'sid
OzFab
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At what point does it stop being a "kart" and start being a car?
A kart would have serious issues. Aerodynamics, wheel base , stability, power, cost etc etc... A kart isn't going to go 200mph with a rx-8 engine with an air filter... ever!
I agree with everything here; however, I still stand by my previous comment...
jandj
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Amen, Brother Sid.
This go kart, if all goes to plan should be able to hit more than 200 mph and yes I am kinda crazy when it comes to going fast in a straight line
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I have been tested and I have an IQ number of 137. However sometimes my brain can deactiviate
Sure, all we have to do is brush aside the fact that it’s physically impossible... Then it could happen.
Well Tony, in case ForceFed talks indeed about physics...
allow me to do some math.
Renesis weighs about 124 kg (oh that's the W'ankel engine)
adding a bit of drivetrain and chassis, a brake maybe and a driver
I think it's fair to say I'm very gentle when I claim the finished kart will weigh at least 220kg.
MORE than 200mph (89.4 m/s) again, I think it's fair to assume 90 m/s (201.3 mph)
Now, the hard part..
wind coefficient, frontal area, air drag... hard to tell, but I think the final number will be very much in the realms of 0.53 kg/m
and again, I swear I was tweaking that in Klaudio's favour!
but that's a liquid cooled engine, so I had to assume a radiator, right?
shall we?
okay 220kg * 9.81m/s² * 0.02 * 90 m/s = 3884.76 Watts
well, that's great, we can move the final kart over a concrete road (never a problem at high speeds is it?)
but can we move the kart THROUGH AIR ?
0.53 kg/m * (90 m/s)³ = 386370 Watts
Yes, that's right... 386.4 kW of power...
together 390.3kW (roughly 523 hp!!)
more than TWO times the power the Renesis has (170kW in the bigger version)
Now Tony, from your guts...
Do you think the 184kW (248 hp) will get him to that speed?
with still less than half the power needed?
But let's be fair and assume he adds some more modifications to that engine
you still need to agree that that kind of additional power at least reads very very unlikely...
What can I say, other than
"I seriously doubt it!"
Mounting a renesis to some kart... sure, that should be very well possible... (I think that's what you meant by saying 'nothing is impossible')
but fullfilling his insane claim of going faster than 200 mph with it..
I'll eat Bart's shorts if he does!
he wouldn't even reach that speed if he'd be dropped from a commercial airliner in his kart!
'sid
This might help with the physics, a mazda rx8 tops out at a 150 mph and then another thing is that bhp per tonne on the go kart is more than 1000 bhp per tonne another thing is that the mazda tops out at 150mph with more than 1100 kg more on board than this go kart. As for the iq stuff my school did it as a little contest, may or may not be accurate but all you need to know I am at the top of class and my school is one of the best in the UK. One problem could be that the tyres don't last at top speed but I will get proper tires such as michelin pilots or pirelli p1s instead of normal tyres for the rear as I am using the car's axle so I can put a large enough rim for the tire. Because the rear wheel will be so much bigger than normal go kart tyres, the wheels can use the engine to its full potential. Any thoughts?
Just for reference the rx8 engine is 60 lbs heavier than the r1 engine and the only reason why it couldn't really reach 200 was because of its tyres and we have that covered and we more than make up the weight. I go to the gym so I have built up muscle so I am 60 kg so then the go kart should be in the region 170 give or take or even less. And the r1 kart weighs 100 kg so it will be as fast if not faster but not slower.
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