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Dan hit the nail square on the head, if you have the necessary skills & the tools to do it, do it; if not either gain the necessary skills & tools or take it to someone who already has them.

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at what point do you just buy new versus trying to use what you have available...

my answer is when the expense outweighs the need.

There are lots of parts on my kart that were bought as opposed to made & then there are some parts that were better to make. The difference was price over necessity. Let me explain:

-The rear axle came as part of a package; technically, I got it for nothing.
-The front spindles I bought for $40. I would've cost around half that for the materials, then the other half for the bearings so, without all the cutting, welding & machining, I'm already behind the eight ball...
-The air filter adaptor I turned from a solid aluminium slug 1. because I could & 2. because it was easier than searching for a compatible premade part.
-I even outsourced the bending of the frame because it was half the price of buying the necessary equipment to do it myself.

About a year ago, one of our members local to was having trouble finding a set of hubs that would fit both her wheels & her axles. I made a pair of fronts for her & she had the rears made elsewhere for a reasonable price (the rear axle was tapered & had a keyway, which made them more difficult to make).

Parts like brakes, wheels, sprockets, engine, clutch are no brainers, those you buy!

I am a true believer in built not bought also, but I just spent 3 hours tearing apart a rear axle that probably is not even going to work.... I know I can use the parts for trading stock or eBay them, BUT!!!!

See my second sig line... I'd rather spent time than money unless the time spent is simply not worth it... If I can make something worth $100 in an hour or two, I will; if it'll take me 6 hours to make something worth $10, I'm parting with my money...

Suggestions for torque convertor set up? The Honda has a 1" output shaft so that means?

...a lot of money needs to be spent on a 40 series TC, around $300. If the terrain is mostly flat, I would suggest the much cheaper (around $100) centrufugal clutch...

Going to start out with a live axle and 22x11-8 rears.. This cart will mainly be driven by kids, age 6 to 40+.. I am not a small fella standing 6'4" and weighing in at about 220...

That big ol' Honda is gonna have some beef to it so, you're between a rock & a hard place. Given that the kart is on the heavy side makes it a bit easier (balancing out to a smaller kart with a smaller engine). Really, you have two choices: gear it down & deal with excess torque on take off (spinning wheels, neck snapping accleeration) or gear it average & have a high top speed (which could be scary for the kids

It will be driven mostly on a gravel lane and barn yard setting... I have a 60 tooth driven gear off of the axle I tore apart tonight, but not married to it...

With 22" wheels in mind, I hope not... :)
 
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All kidding aside, I love doing these kind of things... I just wonder if it is worth the TIME it takes to try and make something work vs just buying new... Not talking a whole kart, just simple stuff like spindles and rear axle...

Honestly, right now I have nothing but time in this build... I have not spent a single dollar on anything other than garage supplies and gas to run back and forth.. That is my biggest problem, being frugal... It is hard sometimes to talk myself into spending a dollar..

I wont go into how much Ive saved when I found that the 'work' involved was little to none in comparison to the price/cost. You wondered... when to buy new? vs. refurbish... my opinion is when it is 'needed' and the one you have can nolonger be 'made' useable and you are unable to 'find' one 'used' easily(because of your location/lack of $/transportation...)

I personally have found CList 'junk' karts(usually the posts w/ no pics) that ppl just want outta their yard to be a 'good' resource for finding 'refurbishable' parts for a 'deal'(it is AMAZING what a glass blasting/sanding and some paint will do for parts!!!).

I personally would only buy 'new'... bearings(wheel/axle), chains/belts, brake cables/pads(mainly cause their so cheap vs. not stopping:lolgoku:), and engine parts(internal). Other than those 'things'... and 'oil'... there really isnt any other part that 'cant' be refashioned/refurbished/upgraded w/ 'used' parts(other than w/ parts of lesser usage... usually due to rust/deterioration).

There are no 'rules', parse, the rules of physics(gravity/inertia/momentum...etc) and the 'law'(police/mom n dad), for a kart. All parts are interchangeable and 'usually' the word fabricate is a necessary replacement or 'added' to the word "install"
 

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Ahem, I usually do but, as the PO posted AGAIN as I was writing my long reply to his SECOND POST IN A ROW, he posted for A THIRD TIME IN A ROW &, as I didn't want to turn my FIRST POST into a novel, I created a SECOND POST in response to his THIRD POST!

D'ya follow that?

But I don't see you telling HIM to use the edit button :toetap05:

Don't worry outdoorlivin, no fingers pointed in your direction (not really anyway), Paul (landuse) & I are just messin' around; we do a lot of that around here... :thumbsup:
 

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Ahem, I usually do but, as the PO posted AGAIN as I was writing my long reply to his SECOND POST IN A ROW, he posted for A THIRD TIME IN A ROW &, as I didn't want to turn my FIRST POST into a novel, I created a SECOND POST in response to his THIRD POST!

D'ya follow that?

But I don't see you telling HIM to use the edit button :toetap05:

Don't worry outdoorlivin, no fingers pointed in your direction (not really anyway), Paul (landuse) & I are just messin' around; we do a lot of that around here... :thumbsup:

I could just not believe that a moderator of your standing was acting in this way, that is why I picked on you :D:D:D
 

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Weekend got consumed by hunters safety course for my boys...Been sourcing parts to try and save some $$$$ for the important things on this build...A guy I work with is going to bring in some extras he has laying around tomorrow, after that it is ordering new for the major components that I am sure I am not going to be able to source locally...

I did end up with this little thing over the weekend though...

 

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... & what purpose will that serve?

Well, being the state I live in requires anyone born after 1980 to have a hunters safety course to hunt, it will serve the purpose of my children being legal in the field....:bannana:

Fabroman was talking about the pedal kart, not the hunters course.

I also want to know what you are going to do with the thing, co I sincerely hope you are not going to be putting an engine on it or using it for parts
 

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I know what he was talking about, that's why I put the dancing banana at the end..

As for the pedal cart, It really serves no purpose other than a toy for my youngest to ride around the driveway... He still loves anything he can pedal or ride... Hasn't graduated to the state of lazy like most people today..
 

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I know what he was talking about, that's why I put the dancing banana at the end..

Oh, you're gonna fit in really well around here :lolgoku:

a toy for my youngest to ride around the driveway... He still loves anything he can pedal or ride... Hasn't graduated to the state of lazy like most people today..

Cool, see how long you can keep him that way before being enticed by the almighty big square eye...
 
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