How do you say that in Swedish?

[itsid]

Vas iz dat? I'm sure it's funnier when you can read the subtitles. Unfortunately, I couldn't even read the English ones, but it did crack me up for some reason.

The subtitles don't say much other than it's NOT an official Mercedes Benz commercial
(just some art school project)
the only "subtitle" you should read is
"Detects a threat before it arises"

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't the village sign at the end the name of the place where "Adolph" was born and raised? Plus the fact that he prefered MB's for comfort, VW's for propaganda?

It was that villages name, yes

Oh well, maybe that's just funny on this side of the ocean

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But may I ask the conglomerate of native speakers just a question?
I just saw a yt video (Vsauce-why we clap) in that video Michael (the host) said something that I didn't quite understand.
He said, that tweeting and 'sharing' and all that other inet nonsense is a sort of ersatz-applause (8:40++)
ersatz.. really??
I know there is an english word for Ersatz : Replacement
So here's my question:
Why do I stumble upon more and more german words in your language?
Even in cases where there is a 'userfriendly' english word too?
like
Ersatz - in that video,
Gesundheit - when you could go for "Bless you"
and most commonly now
Über (Uber) when you can just use 'Super'
(okay that's an odd translation, but it'll match most of the time - Supernatural is Übernatürlich for example)

Don't get me wrong, please do; but I'm curious.
Or to ask in swedish:

Varför gör ni det här?

'sid

 

[Doc Sprocket]

Because people dig catchphrases. Some think it makes them sound cool or educated. I love when I hear them use stuff out of context. It screams "stupid".

 

[machinist@large]

But may I ask the conglomerate of native speakers just a question?
I just saw a yt video (Vsauce-why we clap) in that video Michael (the host) said something that I didn't quite understand.
He said, that tweeting and 'sharing' and all that other inet nonsense is a sort of ersatz-applause (8:40++)
ersatz.. really??
I know there is an english word for Ersatz : Replacement
So here's my question:
Why do I stumble upon more and more german words in your language?
Even in cases where there is a 'userfriendly' english word too?
like
Ersatz - in that video,
Gesundheit - when you could go for "Bless you"
and most commonly now
Über (Uber) when you can just use 'Super'
(okay that's an odd translation, but it'll match most of the time - Supernatural is Übernatürlich for example)

Don't get me wrong, please do; but I'm curious.
Or to ask in swedish:

Varför gör ni det här?

'sid

Because people dig catchphrases. Some think it makes them sound cool or educated. I love when I hear them use stuff out of context. It screams "stupid".

O'le Doc here has a very valid case with that argument (while I mostly agree, I don't have enough of a linguistic education to totally confirm or deny): from my own upbringing, I was taught, I was........ STRONGLY encouraged to learn proper English: what is either funny or gives me major fits of is when I run across some one from the supposed birthplace of the language I was taught as my milk tongue that is blowing a gasket at a world class trade show (IMTS Chicago) at some poor lunch counter clerk because she can't comprehend him...

It's pretty sad when you listen to the affronted one blowing up at the on site security team because he feel's that none of the people working at/ hosting this world wide trade show is worth (some word I've never heard before or since), while a small group of suits looks on....

What was funny was that the group was from Essen (?) Germany, and when they had ID'd themselves, they asked who I was. I told them the exact line of BS that the owners of the company had thought up (the owners being a married couple); I'm the #3 in a small high tech startup; I'm here to look for ways to improve our throughput capacity, and anything that might help relieve any bottlenecks in our engineering processes....

They bought me lunch after I couldn't repeat it three times in a row, as fast as I could, while keeping a straight face......

As far as what language we borrow "loan" words from, here in the small slice of the world I call home, you still have a handful of old Irish words with German being pretty close as well....

One that seems to be having issues is the Dutch language; over 75% of the local population claims to be Dutch, yet the language is almost gone.....

 

[itsid]

when I run across some one from the supposed birthplace of the language I was taught as my milk tongue

The german northern isles?

Or is that too far back in time

What was funny was that the group was from Essen (?) Germany
...
They bought me lunch after I couldn't repeat it three times in a row, as fast as I could, while keeping a straight face......

Funny side note:
Essen is right, and that's where I will be tomorrow (or to be precise in a few hours today) it's roughly 10km from my comfy chair.

Because people dig catchphrases. Some think it makes them sound cool or educated. I love when I hear them use stuff out of context. It screams "stupid".

Okay, I get the catchy phrase thing of course, and I do understand that pubertarians (I know.. I just like how that sounds) have a strong urge to be cool or something.
That's basically the same thing around here..
Well I'd say it's worse around here, I bet!

What I do not quite understand is the how part.
TV distribution works in one direction,
we see what canadians or americans produced,
So I roughly understand why we use english terms every now and then (or being a hormonal challenged teenager... all the time, but wrong)
But where do you get the german from, there is exactly no reason I can think of anyone would consider german as being a 'cool' language or even watching german TV.

As far as what language we borrow "loan" words from, here in the small slice of the world I call home, you still have a handful of old Irish words with German being pretty close as well....

One that seems to be having issues is the Dutch language; over 75% of the local population claims to be Dutch, yet the language is almost gone.....

Okay that make sense, use words your parents and grandparents use...
I was just astonished when I detected new ones,
well new for me to hear in an english context that is.

But, I thought I might ask, maybe I missed something..

Thanks for your answers.

'sid

 

[OzFab]

The simple fact is that English is one of the youngest languages in the world today; all words in the English language are "borrowed" from other languages; French, German, Italian, Spanish, even Chinese & Arabic (the word assassin is derived from the arabic word hashishins, which means exactly what you think it does).

How do I know this? I'm not much for reading books but, a few years ago, I bought a "bathroom reader" called The Dictionary of Word Origins, very informative... I'm also a bit of a trivia buff (as a result of the afore mentioned book, I can now tell you trivia about the word trivia lol)

The English language has grown & evolved over the past 1500 or so years & continues to grow & evolve...

 

[Poboy kartman]

Sid-
Ersats is a fairly new addition. I've been hearing uber for about 15 years and gesundheit since I a little kid. Gesundheit may have become popular because of Atheists. Also possible that the words have been used here longer due to the proximity of the German settlers.

There are a ton of slang words and phrases that defy translation that aren't used on the internet much because of the black population's urge to create their own language. When young white kids pick them up, they change them. I just hope that wearing your pants down below your butt becomes passè soon.

 

[Doc Sprocket]

I just hope that wearing your pants down below your butt becomes passè soon.

You and me both, my friend...

 

[souperman000]

I just hope that wearing your pants down below your butt becomes passè soon.

You and me both, my friend...

While some kids still do it, I have noticed a fairly drastic decrease in the sagging trend.

The hipsters at school are now wearing tight clothing, as in shorts that are a little above the knee, cardigans, and button up shirts with the top button buttoned.

I don't really like any of those trends though; shorts and a t-shirt for me!

 

[itsid]

Thanks guys for your replies.
Digging deeper in that lingual chaos it only gets more and more confusing..
And since I don't want to do a doctorate in philology,
I think I just stop researching any further
Since it was just couriosity (that killed the cat -no) about those more recent additions to your language.
Just as a bunch of side notes:
Pennsylvania Dutch is actually german, not dutch!*
(a dialect still spoken in some parts of germany)
close to the Alemannic dialect, funny enough I can't comprehend any text in those dialects although that is german.
I do understand text in Afrikaans though, which is actually Dutch, not german.
(tried with some wikipedia articles)
Odd isn't it?!

One that seems to be having issues is the Dutch language; over 75% of the local population claims to be Dutch, yet the language is almost gone.....

*which leads me to the assumption, that maybe what you refer to as Dutch might be German again (Deutsch).

Again, thank you!

'sid

 

[Poboy kartman]

There was a TV show about the Amish Mafia and they were speaking Pennsylvania Dutch.I thought I was catching a few familiar words there.

 

[itsid]

Amish Mafia?

hayforks and crop instead of weapons and drugs?
or is it sheep instead of 'exotic dancers'.. uhhh somebody erase THAT mental picture please...!

'sid

 

[Poboy kartman]

Amish Mafia?

hayforks and crop instead of weapons and drugs?
or is it sheep instead of 'exotic dancers'.. uhhh somebody erase THAT mental picture please...!

'sid

What goes BANG BANG- clop clop?

An Amish drive by. ....

 

[Poboy kartman]

Amish Mafia?

hayforks and crop instead of weapons and drugs?
or is it sheep instead of 'exotic dancers'.. uhhh somebody erase THAT mental picture please...!

'sid

No It was actually pretty crazy. The head guys were driving new Mercedes and pickups.They had barn fights conviently lighted by Halogen lights.They all have cell phones. I got the impression that being Amish is just a convenient way to get around being different for personal gain.

 

[OzFab]

My understanding of "Amish" is they don't use anything mechanised (which also rules out guns) or powered by electricity; roller blades only just met their approval...

How, then, is it possible to drive anything other than a horse drawn buggy, use artificial lighting & cell phones & still call yourself Amish?

Logically speaking, it's illogical

 

[Poboy kartman]

My understanding of "Amish" is they don't use anything mechanised (which also rules out guns) or powered by electricity; roller blades only just met their approval...

How, then, is it possible to drive anything other than a horse drawn buggy, use artificial lighting & cell phones & still call yourself Amish?

Logically speaking, it's illogical

Although it was called Amish Mafia, it was really about the leaders of the Amish clans. They call us "the English" and they don't want our justice system to interfere with theirs. The show focused on a handful of the main players in the communities. They definitely had cars, phones, and guns. Perhaps the halogen lighting was for filming sake, but I doubt it. The average Amish had buggies or bicycles but when they needed to travel more than a few miles they used a "taxi"(an English person with a minivan.) Riding in a car is ok just not owning or driving one. But the leaders were above the law.

Even so, I saw clues that some of the "normal" folks had electricity. But if you are. Amish and break one rule are you no longer Amish?

If you are Australian and move to America are you no longer Australian? Or are you an Australian living in America? IDK. I think maybe they are easing up on the strict Amish criteria.

 

[mckutzy]

Alot of the main people that have the guns, cars, cell phones ect. are Mennonite. they have the similar values as amish, but do use technology and the like. AFAIK.

 

[fowler]

The armish are allowed to use engines and other far more modern things than people think

Mainly it's electricity they can't use

My dad got a free trip to the US with a mavhinery company called New Holland
When we purchased a harvester

On the trip they focused a alot on all kinds of agrigultural advances the US had made
Interestingly it was in the armish community that alot had been made
As far as new crop types with differant strengths
As far as weed and quality control
And the development of new herbicide and insectersides

His tour group had to go but a few of those small disposable cameras to take pics as the digital cameras can shoe u the pic straight up and ghe armish arnt sopose to see that
and they weren't alowed to take any pics of the people them selves

But there were some great pics of a top notch spray rig on the back of a horse and cart
There was a Briggs & Stratton washing machine

And a newish John deer tractor with steel wheels being used as a stationary engine

They can use engines but they have to be stationary power plants

 

[Poboy kartman]

Alot of the main people that have the guns, cars, cell phones ect. are Mennonite. they have the similar values as amish, but do use technology and the like. AFAIK.

I don't remember all the names, but only Levi's henchman (who was also the barn fighter) was Mennonite according to the show. But now that you mention it, he was the only one I saw with a gun.

 

[machinist@large]

While I don't know about the TV show, we have a couple of Amish and Mennonite communities in the part of Michigan that I call home. From what I gather, while there are some broad generalities that are common across the varied local communities, a lot of the specific rules for a given area are decided by the citizens of that community.

The group to my northwest allow gasoline and diesel engines to be used for power, they can't be used to generate electric power, and have to be stationary; i.e. they can not be self propelled to move round. That's why you see some farms with an older gas or diesel power unit set up on a cart w/ a clutch and gearbox to provide PTO power for trailed equipment, being pulled by 2,4,and 6 horse teams for such applications as baling hay or picking ear corn. This group allows modern rubber tires on high load trailers and wagons to minimize compaction in the fields, but still requires solid wheels for buggies. They are debating whether or not to allow solid rubber tires for them. Power tools are allowed as long as they are air or hydraulically powered, no electricity.

The group to the north east allows tractors (and other off highway equipment) as long as they are on steel wheels, and do not have any computer controls or cabs. ROPS with a sun shade are OK, mostly you see an umbrella for shade. No rubber tires allowed (there's an Amish building contractor out that way that has skid loaders and telehandlers (Bobcat, Petibone/ Skytrack, etc) all on custome steel wheels). Electric power for the barns and shops, but not for the house. I'm still wondering how the kids get away with a modern (battery powered) car stereo in their buggies though.

The Mennonite communities seem to be a little free're, but they all seem to decide how they want their individual community to run as a local group, rather than there being one set of rules for all groups.

Just what I've observed along the way..... Pat

 

[Scout]

The armish are allowed to use engines and other far more modern things than people think

Mainly it's electricity they can't use

My dad got a free trip to the US with a mavhinery company called New Holland
When we purchased a harvester

On the trip they focused a alot on all kinds of agrigultural advances the US had made
Interestingly it was in the armish community that alot had been made
As far as new crop types with differant strengths
As far as weed and quality control
And the development of new herbicide and insectersides

His tour group had to go but a few of those small disposable cameras to take pics as the digital cameras can shoe u the pic straight up and ghe armish arnt sopose to see that
and they weren't alowed to take any pics of the people them selves

But there were some great pics of a top notch spray rig on the back of a horse and cart
There was a Briggs & Stratton washing machine

And a newish John deer tractor with steel wheels being used as a stationary engine

They can use engines but they have to be stationary power plants

I've heard of Amish using electric tools, but run by a generator. Something about they can't be tied to the outside world. (power lines)



Back to the OT, I went to New Zealand this past summer and had to learn new names for lots of things.