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building up a kart my grandpa gave me. turning it into a little off roader. i plan to run a 420cc predator engine and a comet torque converter. should i use #41 chain, or will i be ok with #35? id rather use #35 if i could because i already have a sprocket for #35.
 

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You could use a #35, but I would advise using #40/#41 because you have a pretty powerful engine. The #35 is not as strong as the others

Just be advised that you WILL need a 40 series TC and not a 30 series. I am not too sure what you have, but a 30 series was not designed for that amount of HP
 

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Just be advised that you WILL need a 40 series TC and not a 30 series. I am not too sure what you have, but a 30 series was not designed for that amount of HP

been looking around online, does noone make a 40 series kit? all i can find are separate parts.

if i went with a hillard extreme duty clutch with 14 teeth, and a 60 tooth axle sprocket, with 16 inch tall off road tires, what kind of acceleration can i expect? this will be off road only, i dont need to go super fast. i would go to a 72 tooth axle sprocket, but im worried about ground clearance. does anyone know the outside diameter of a 72 tooth #41 chain sprocket?
EDIT: looks like 60T is the biggest i can get in #41 chain?
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Hi, just to throw my 2 cents in you could run a jack-shaft set up insted of a torque converter.

thinking that would work better at this point, as far as cost.
i have no clue what sprockets to use though. for the clutch i will probably go with the hillard extreme duty 14 tooth. this kart will have 16 inch tall tires. i want good torque, but i dont want it to crawl. 15-20mph would be nice.
 

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I'm pretty sure a 40 series TC mostly comes in the #40/41 variety?

I'm surprised you cannot seem to find a complete 40 Series kit. What sites have you been looking at? Also, a jackshaft does not replace a torque converter. And a TC is always better than a centrifugal clutch, especially for an off road type kart.
 

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I'm pretty sure a 40 series TC mostly comes in the #40/41 variety?

I'm surprised you cannot seem to find a complete 40 Series kit. What sites have you been looking at? Also, a jackshaft does not replace a torque converter. And a TC is always better than a centrifugal clutch, especially for an off road type kart.

bmikarts, mfgsupply, gokartsupply, gokartsusa, gokartgalaxy, northern tool are all the places i looked. i know the TC would be the best thing, but it looks like id spend over $300 piecing one together that can handle the 420 predator, versus 90 for the clutch and maybe another 60 for all the jackshaft parts.
 

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been looking around online, does noone make a 40 series kit? all i can find are separate parts.

if i went with a hillard extreme duty clutch with 14 teeth, and a 60 tooth axle sprocket, with 16 inch tall off road tires, what kind of acceleration can i expect? this will be off road only, i dont need to go super fast. i would go to a 72 tooth axle sprocket, but im worried about ground clearance. does anyone know the outside diameter of a 72 tooth #41 chain sprocket?
EDIT: looks like 60T is the biggest i can get in #41 chain?
i appreciate all the help ive gotten already on this forum despite having joined only yesterday.

A comet 40 series does not get sold as a kit, you HAVE to buy everything seperate. It is not like the comet 20 and 30 series where they do come in kits.

With a 14T going to a 60T, you are going to have a 4.28:1 gear ratio. That is WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYY to high for you, ESPECIALLY with 16" tyres and offroading. A good middle road for gearing is always 6:1. For you, you are going to have to gear to at least 8:1 IMO. That means you are going to either have to get a TC or a jackshaft and cent clutch

Hi, just to throw my 2 cents in you could run a jack-shaft set up insted of a torque converter.

I agree

thinking that would work better at this point, as far as cost.
i have no clue what sprockets to use though. for the clutch i will probably go with the hillard extreme duty 14 tooth. this kart will have 16 inch tall tires. i want good torque, but i dont want it to crawl. 15-20mph would be nice.

To get ANY torque using a 14T clutch, you are going to have to use a jackshaft.

I'm pretty sure a 40 series TC mostly comes in the #40/41 variety?

They don't get sold as kits
 
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