the same guys that run at belchers and the other one closer to me, ran at that track in Laveen, some had highly modifies clone engines. turning just under 8 sec laps. faster guys were goin 7.8 sec. just bring it out and im sure you could run, except the payout races cause its not a clone. but i dont think they did a payout just cause they needed a certain amount of guys to show. but it was a good track. rough but had a lot of room. even has a high groove. as long as you could gear for it.