wrench substitute for 2" filter

[nps]

Hi

I anticipate changing the oil/filter on my kid's kart perhaps once a year for a few years. So I'd rather not get a special wrench for it if I can avoid it.

First attempt using a rubber strap wrench did not work -- whoever put the previous one on, did it up tight! I should also add that there is limited space to work around for this filter. Any suggestions of another wrench substitute for a 2" oil filter?

thanks in advance

 

[Russ2251]

Can you get a pipe wrench on it?

 

[Doc Sprocket]

If it's on that tight, it's on too dang tight. Park the kart over a catch pan, and hammer a large screwdriver right thru the filter canister. Use the screwdriver as a handle to loosen the can. That does it every time. (this is assuming you don't have a suitable pipe wrench.)

When installing the new filter, lubricate the gasket with clean engine oil, and HAND TIGHTEN it, generally not more than one full turn past the point that the gasket contacts the mating surface.

From there on in, you should not need any wrench to remove. I have been doing all my own oil changes since I was old enough to drive, and unless the filter is in a dead awkward spot, I have never needed a wrench at the next oil change. Nor have I ever had one leak.

 

[birddog1148]

If it's on that tight, it's on too dang tight. Park the kart over a catch pan, and hammer a large screwdriver right thru the filter canister. Use the screwdriver as a handle to loosen the can. That does it every time. (this is assuming you don't have a suitable pipe wrench.)

When installing the new filter, lubricate the gasket with clean engine oil, and HAND TIGHTEN it, generally not more than one full turn past the point that the gasket contacts the mating surface.

From there on in, you should not need any wrench to remove. I have been doing all my own oil changes since I was old enough to drive, and unless the filter is in a dead awkward spot, I have never needed a wrench at the next oil change. Nor have I ever had one leak.

x2.

 

[Bluethunder3320]

your karts got an oil filter?

 

[Russ2251]

your karts got an oil filter?

There is a point, when an engine is large enough, that a filter is required.

 

[Bluethunder3320]

There is a point, when an engine is large enough, that a filter is required.

that would explain it. i got a 10hp tecumseh VMXL100 thats got an oil filter, and a 13.5 briggs that doesnt. but anything smaller than that ive got has no filter.

 

[sexyvicta]

If it's on that tight, it's on too dang tight. Park the kart over a catch pan, and hammer a large screwdriver right thru the filter canister. .

this is what i do also. Works well. Spesh on small cars where it gets cramped and a filter wrench is hard/impossible to use

 

[Rustydog2010]

hammer a large screwdriver right thru the filter canister. Use the screwdriver as a handle to loosen the can. That does it every time.

Have always been taught not to hit screwdrivers.

this is what i do also. Works well. Spesh on small cars where it gets cramped and a filter wrench is hard/impossible to use

I dont see how a filter removal strap takes up more room than a swinging hammer and a screwdriver/prybar?

My personal preference is to use a filter strap, water pump pliers and then if all else fails get out the biggest prybar and hammer you can find. That seems to be the only way, especially when the threaded piece in the filter housing comes un-done.

But, as Toystory says, alway, always put some oil on the seal before you screw it up!

Jeremy.

 

[fowler]

gotta love the filter straps
u need to get the type that have a 1/2 inch drive hole insteat of one with a built in bar
that way u can get a big breaker bar on there
and if that doesnt work the put a peice of pipe on the breaker bar


we are told not to dammage the filters too much as they are kept for analysis every now and again

 

[nps]

Thanks for all the answers. A couple of answers to your questions:

not enough room for a pipe wrench

the strap wrench I was using fit, but was a rubber strap (though I did get a serious amount of torque on it)

The filter is on the oil cooler attached to a 10 hp knockoff of a Honda GY6.

thanks again...I'll probably try the screwdriver skewer thing!

 

[sexyvicta]

Have always been taught not to hit screwdrivers.



I dont see how a filter removal strap takes up more room than a swinging hammer and a screwdriver/prybar?

.

I have a filter wrench/strap thing but the handle is fairly long. On some cars i can get it onto the filter but there is no way i can turn it without taking parts off the car. A lot of the time the filter is too tight for hand removal(even when i have installed the filter myself at the recomended amount of turns by hand). So a smallish flat head screw driver stabbed through the end of the filter leaves a nice small handle poking out and is possible to unscrew. Even on filters that are easy to get at i just stab em with screw driver now :biggrin5: is more fun

edit: i learnt this trick when i was 16 and working in an AA car service centre. Thats what the mechanics did if the filter strap wouldn't work for whatever reason.

 

[Rustydog2010]

I have a filter wrench/strap thing but the handle is fairly long. On some cars i can get it onto the filter but there is no way i can turn it without taking parts off the car. A lot of the time the filter is too tight for hand removal(even when i have installed the filter myself at the recomended amount of turns by hand). So a smallish flat head screw driver stabbed through the end of the filter leaves a nice small handle poking out and is possible to unscrew. Even on filters that are easy to get at i just stab em with screw driver now :biggrin5: is more fun

edit: i learnt this trick when i was 16 and working in an AA car service centre. Thats what the mechanics did if the filter strap wouldn't work for whatever reason.

Ahhh, I was talking about ones that don't have a handle. That also has a 1/2' drive. Like this:

we are told not to dammage the filters too much as they are kept for analysis every now and again

Same here, although all the heavy stuff we play with has cartridge type filters. We have to take samples every time we drain any oil. Then keep a filter from each oil, then cut them open them up and look for metal.
Probably a tad excessive for small engines.

 

[fowler]

yes that is the straps im talking about

but the stuff we work on space isnt and issue with simple service stuff so getting a breaker bar in that 1/2 inch drive is easy