Where to buy complete torque converter kits?

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Grimace

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Like the title says. 1" bore shaft, 13 hp harbor freight job. I hate buying what someone says is all I need, only to find out I need a ton more parts, bolts, and some stuff fabricated. Just post me up a link if you can, and I will be very appreciative. I looked at the comet series 40 tc setups, but didnt see an "everything you need in one box" deal.
Thanks, Justin.

Btw, I will be using this for all offroad driving, trails mostly with a 7 year old, and a 3 year old as passengers. Speed isnt what I need, just torque. Tires are roughly 15 inches tall, I am 285 on the hoof. Not sure what gear ratio I need to max out at no more than 20-25 mph. Thanks
 

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You won't be able to find a kit for series 40 and the series 30 1" bore kits won't be enough for your engine. Northern is offering the driver/driven clutch in their catalog, but just like everyone else, they don't have a kit because they didn't make one.
 

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Like the title says. 1" bore shaft, 13 hp harbor freight job.Just post me up a link if you can, and I will be very appreciative.

1" Torque Converter - Small Engine Go Kart Clutch - Replaces Comet TAV2 30-100
$204.99 Lowest Price Guaranteed.
(254) 731-9269
The Torque Converter assembly includes:

Driver Unit:1set
Driven Unit:1set
V-Belt:1pc
Driven Shaft & Gear:1set
Side Retainer Plate:1pc
Torque Converter Cover:1pc
http://www.bulletlines.com/1-torque-converter-p/55.htm
 

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No, that is not what you need. Did you read my post? You have a 13 HP engine, the torque converter he is trying to sell you is rated up to 8 HP. You'll be burning up belts left and right. Osso should very well know this and never have suggested it.

Series 30 can not properly handle 13hp engines.
 

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Yes i read your post, follow the link and there is a drop down menu for the series 40 that will handle 13 hp.
 

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It won't be a kit though right? Or did they assemble a kit. I wasn't trying to sound rude, I just don't want you buying the wrong thing and wasting money. I have never seen a series 40 kit, reason being it was not produced that way and typically modification is required to mount a larger engine so the next step of building a jackshaft is not terrible considering you doubled up the frame and built a mount.
 

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You cant buy 40 series kits, just the individual parts to make that clear like blaz said. Instead you will need a jackshaft and sprockets, about $30.
 

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No, that is not what you need. Did you read my post? You have a 13 HP engine, the torque converter he is trying to sell you is rated up to 8 HP. You'll be burning up belts left and right. Osso should very well know this and never have suggested it.

Series 30 can not properly handle 13hp engines.

oh good grief man...
 

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Grimace.. give them a call man just to be on the safe side...
(254) 731-9269
that is why i posted the phone number. As R chez mentioned, BMI also carrys some of the comet parts but not in a complete kit. Thanks!
 

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This torque converter fits a 1" shaft and comes with your choice of a 10 tooth sprocket for a 40/41 chain or a 12 tooth sprocket for a 35 chain. It will work with small engines producing 8 HP - 13 HP
 

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This torque converter fits a 1" shaft and comes with your choice of a 10 tooth sprocket for a 40/41 chain or a 12 tooth sprocket for a 35 chain. It will work with small engines producing 8 HP - 13 HP

As brilliant as the large front is, I'm telling you what I know about the torque converter itself. Their website is wrong and unless they've magically re-engineered the assembly it will have issues.
 

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This is not a full kit and does not include the back plate.
The link i sent carrys everything including a backing plate..
just saying...
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You cant buy 40 series kits, just the individual parts to make that clear like blaz said. Instead you will need a jackshaft and sprockets, about $30.

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Me and blaz are both reccomending the 40 series because of comet's rating. I personally don't care for the chineese rating.
I have not used a 30 series/tav2 on a 13hp personally, so maybe I do not have the right to comment, but I would not reccomend it. I own both a tav30 and the 40 series, and you may do too. The 40 series is much more durable. It has a bigger belt and will last the OP longer. If the OP has belt problems and has to buy twice as many replacement belts as they would a 40 series, or they need to replace the unit sooner, they may as well have bought a 40.
 

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This torque converter fits a 1" shaft and comes with your choice of a 10 tooth sprocket for a 40/41 chain or a 12 tooth sprocket for a 35 chain. It will work with small engines producing 8 HP - 13 HP

If you're SO sure (like the big font? really proves my point) that it can take up to 13HP, go buy one and run 13HP through a Comet 30 series clone. Tell me how many belts you turn into jellied rubber. There's a reason Comet rated it to 8HP, because it can handle up to 8HP. GTC ripped off Comet and tweaked the number to be more appealing while they were not making a 40 series clone. They wanted to sell to more customers, so they lied...and you bought it. A 40 series will run on engines in the 30 series range, but are designed for up to 25HP. I saw a 40 this summer on a GX200 powered homemade golf cart.
 

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If you're SO sure (like the big font? really proves my point) that it can take up to 13HP, go buy one and run 13HP through a Comet 30 series clone. Tell me how many belts you turn into jellied rubber. There's a reason Comet rated it to 8HP, because it can handle up to 8HP. GTC ripped off Comet and tweaked the number to be more appealing while they were not making a 40 series clone. They wanted to sell to more customers, so they lied...and you bought it. A 40 series will run on engines in the 30 series range, but are designed for up to 25HP. I saw a 40 this summer on a GX200 powered homemade golf cart.

The big font which i enlarged is from the vendors website...not a direct quote from me..
Take your concerns up with they're wrong data on theyre wrong website if you don't believe em, that's what the phone number is for. Don't take my word for anything...
The man asked for a link, and I provided.. Its up to him and others how they want to use it. I don't know or care if the data the vendor provided is accurate or not accurate as I am not the one needing the part. I have no stake in this at all other than providing a link as requested. Id hope he could work out these questions between the vendor and himself since everyone on this site seems to have aquired a phd in TAV's and he should have enough questions to ask the vendor now. ;)
Grimace, you asked for a link. Instead of telling you what I can't do I try to go the other way and show you what I CAN do, and I provided. It is up to you to do your research on this and use your best judgement. I have no stake in this at all as far as it benefiting me in anyway. As others are telling you this will not work I have my own opinions to this but around here opinions are like *******s and we all have one including myself. The professionals on here are very opinionated as you can see. Those being Blaz, Toystory, and Red Sox and myself. Feel free to pm any of us as this has carried on quite far enough in a public forum. Thanks and my apologies are sincere for any confusion provided by myself or others.
 

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Get the 40 series. I own the kit you looking to buy, works great on my 6hp engine, no complaints what so ever. But on the other hand another forum member named metalthrashinman, used the same kit on a 9hp engine and ran into severe belt wear issues.
Other websites have also claimed that the torque converter requires modifications to fit onto some 13hp clones. I will also mention that yet another forum member (cant recall his user name right now...) used a genuine comet 30 series (without the back plate) on a 13hp engine and did not have any complaints.

If you stay orginized, gettting two or three bearings, one 3/4" jack shaft, one sprocket, a driven , adriver, a belt, and a handful of bolts is not very challanging. I know a kit would be slightly more convinient, but they do not sell 40 series kits, and the 30 series kits will likely end-up being more of a pain than assembling a jack shaft. Worst case scenario you spend few extra bucks and you get a much more reliable system, and options to upgrade the engine further if you want.
 

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Didnt mean to get everyones feathers ruffled. Thanks for the help all, I have plenty of information to get started. Thanks again.
 

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1. Don't take my word for anything...
2.The man asked for a link, and I provided...
3. I don't know or care if the data the vendor provided is accurate or not accurate as I am not the one needing the part.
4. I have no stake in this at all as far as it benefiting me in anyway.
5. As others are telling you this will not work I have my own opinions to this but around here opinions are like a**holes and we all have one including myself.
6. The professionals on here are very opinionated as you can see. Those being Blaz, Toystory, and Red Sox and myself.

1. The best info in your whole post.
2. Provided...an inaccurate link. For all he knows, you could be entirely correct...but sadly, arent.
3. Before you re-post info, either make sure it's correct, or don't get upset when corrected. (my opinion, it's logical in my book)
4. We're here to help each other have a good, successful karting experience, not to say "I have no stock in it, who cares."
5. There are opinions and facts. The GTC TAV2, an EXACT copy of the Comet TAV2, didn't magically gain an extra 5HP in rating by being copied.
6. I much appreciate the title of "Professional", although if you're giving yourself the same title, while not caring about sharing helpful, correct info, I think I'd rather turn in my badge.
 
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