Wheels at a wrong angle?

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ibrahim123

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Are the wheels supposed to be the way they are now.

Ok look at my wheels when i turn left and right:


As you can see from this image. The left wheel's angle is looking good but the one on the right has the bottom part leaning more in the inside and the top part on the outside. Isnt it supposed to be the other way round?

The same thing applies when i turn to the other side:



Is there any way to correct this or?
 

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Looks like the top of the spindle bracket is rotated towards the front. I'm not sure of how the geometry should be for sure, but is the pin that holds the spindle to the bracket/front arm leaning towards the front of the buggy?

edit: It looks like the castor angle is actually backwards to what it should be. The castor angle should lean back a bit, this looks like it's leaning forward.
 

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If you were to look at your kingpin from beside the kart, the top should be tilted a few (say 10) degrees toward the rear of the kart.

Check this out:
 

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Pitman arm looks to short. Tie rods ends are rolling with the the steering shaft. Not sure if that is your problem. Just something I noticed.

If your pitman arm was longer it would push the tie rod out. And not roll around the shaft pulling the tie rod with it.
 

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From what it looks like, the top of the steering pivot is not pointing at the back but at the front. This means that it is the wrong way round. But at the same time it is not because i spent half an hour trying to get it the right way but in the end if i do put them the right way, then the shocks will not be able to fit in. This tells me that the correct way is how it is but even though the pivot is facing the wrong way. I think its a matter of welding the 2 whole brackets in the wrong position the top part where the shock is installed should be leaning more outside which will make the bottom of the wheels lean more to the inside if you guys understood :p
 

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Take a tire off so we can see the spindle. Also take off the shocks cycle the suspension, it looks like you have some bump steer.
 

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It should be fine.. looks plenty strong. the tire will wear slightly differently (only when turning), it doesn't REALLY matter. It'd be stronger rotated backwards.
what shocks are those on the ground and mounted?




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With the exception of the ackerrman, the photo looks like it should from the rear.

true

u could just swap the arms around
but then u would have to channge the position of the pitman arm

if u are choping up a quad to go into a buggy id reckomen legthening the pitman arm unless u plan on useing the handle bars
that arm with a standard steering wheel will give u hellish quick steering (talking of experiance)
 

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IMO you need to cut it apart and reassemble correctly, it will not steer very well, it's going to push real bad (try to go straight). So its a small amount of rework to have something that works.
 

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IMO you need to cut it apart and reassemble correctly, it will not steer very well, it's going to push real bad (try to go straight). So its a small amount of rework to have something that works.
I'd agree with that. I think it's a matter of cutting it apart, doing some research on caster, camber and steering geometry and making it right. It's going to push and have a lot of bump steer (front of the kart raises when turning).
 

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I will cut it, change positions of the whole brackets and then adjust it to the right angle. That will do the job
 
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