what size engine do i need for

[mtsavage]

just woundering if this engine would work for my first cart (snow pusher )and wagon puller for summer :.)going fast for this one is not importent need to be able to push SNOW

 

[Doc Sprocket]

Umm... What engine?

 

[mtsavage]

ooops

 

[B man]

Well thats more to do with what gear ratio.

 

[mtsavage]

double ooooops

 

[redsox985]

Unless there's a clutch inside that reduction box, there may be some complications. Otherwise, I'd guess about 8HP Briggs (flatty?). What info is stamped into that ID plate?

 

[mtsavage]

of what i can make out its some thing like 9436636003760 its in the shed right now,, so i can t check it out ,,i understand the gear ratio(not really) but if the engine wont do than i guess gear ratio doesnt count yet ,,,,,, im a newby ,but i no that it cant go with out and engine lol

 

[The Mechtician]

That thing is probably somewhere around 60 years old. Oil bath air cleaners went out at the end of the war! As long as it runs (which I think it will, those old Briggs engines had separate cast iron cylinders that never wear out), that engine would probably push a school bus, just not very fast. The torque provided by gear reduction can be prodigious. I'd be interested to see what the gear ratio actually is, can you post it? For your own edification, the first number of the ratio is the number of revolutions on the input side that it takes to produce 1 revolution on the output side, eg; 10:1 means it takes 10 turns of the input shaft (the crankshaft, in this case) to turn the output shaft once. On the whole, for a snow pusher or tow rig I don't think you could find a better engine if you tried

 

[mtsavage]

it turns ,,its got a spark to it ,,other than that ill need to check out the ratio in the day time,,,,,need to go get my self ready for bed,,,,,,,,lol,,,,,,,,,as for speed if it can go faster then walking ,,its all good

 

[Russ2251]

Oil bath air cleaners went out at the end of the war!

Actually more like a decade after the war...1957 or (likely) a few years later...'63?

 

[88s10Durango]

I had a old Briggs like that on a generator I had ,it had the Oil Bath filter and was of 1964 vintage .

 

[The Mechtician]

I stand corrected, that means the engine is potentially as young as 47 years old, which also means that the cylinder may not be cast iron after all When you get it running mtsavage, do you have the technology to make a video? I'm a big fan of vintage hardware like that, they really don't make 'em like they used to

 

[redsox985]

Pulling the numbers from the ID plate will provide a lot more info. It will also help to know what kind of reduction is inside that box.

 

[mtsavage]

few more pics

here are some more pics of my engine .......well i tried to upload more picks,and for some reason ,i couldnt post anymore

 

[Russ2251]

Use .jpg images within the guidelines regarding size/space requirements/limitations.
My gut feeling it is a sleeved cylinder. Numbers will indicate that. If not...popping the head of will tell you. Might be a good idea to see what's in there anyway, given it's age.

 

[mtsavage]

ill try it again ,,,see what happens

 

[mtsavage]

ill try something else

 

[mtsavage]

ok the numbers on that plate reads 220615,and thats at the bottom of the plate,,and on the engine they are 81352 943600 3160 thats it for the numbers ,

 

[Russ2251]

Appears to be 3hp as indicated in 2nd link.
http://www4.briggsandstratton.com/miscPDFs/RNT/Antique%20Manuals%20FAQ/Antique%20IPLs/803%20and%2081300%20MS4255.pdf

http://www4.briggsandstratton.com/m...FAQ/Antique Owner Manuals/27842a-domestic.pdf

 

[slideways]

Typically those gear boxes were 6:1 reduction. So at full throttle you will be turning the crankshaft at 600rpm. You will actually have to run reversed sized sprockets i.e.. say a 24t engine and 10t rear end to get any kind of speed out of the thing.

I think you'd be best looking for another motor for all the trouble you'll end up with gearing wise.