devino246
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It certainly looks like a good little project. I'd probably try it if I weren't spending all my time working on 3 websites and a grumpy old truck.
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It certainly looks like a good little project. I'd probably try it if I weren't spending all my time working on 3 websites and a grumpy old truck.
jman231994
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Nah, I'm not gonna build one. I was looking into it ages back but realised it would be too hard to get the power I wanted. Your right devino, CURRENTLY. haha give it ten years or so and it might be different....The one thing I see as important is increasing the efficiency, theres a couple of fuel cell types that only heat up to room temp or so, and the hydrogen production could be made heaps more efficient....It's like steam cars, they had heaps of potential but nobody really went into it trying to make them efficient. Gasoline was just easier and better at the time......Thankfully big companies are getting really into hydrogen power.
My favourite example of it is the Doble steam car
Straight from wiki - "The 1924 model Doble Series E steam car could run for 1,500 miles (2,400 km) before its 24-gallon water tank needed to be refilled; even in freezing weather, it could be started from cold and move off within 30 seconds, and once fully warmed could be relied upon to reach speeds in excess of 90 miles per hour (140 km/h). In recent years Doble cars have been run at speeds approaching 120 mph (190 km/h), this without the benefits of streamlining, and a lighter version of the Series E accelerated from 0 - 75 mph (121 km/h) in 10 seconds.[citation needed] Its fuel consumption, burning a variety of fuels (often kerosene), was competitive with automobiles of the day, and its ability to run in eerie silence apart from wind noise gave it a distinct edge. At 70 mph (110 km/h), there was little noticeable vibration, with the engine turning at around 900 rpm.
Contemporary Doble advertisements mentioned the lightness of the engine, which would lead customers to compare it favorably with heavier gasoline engines, but "engine" in a steam car usually refers solely to the expander unit, and does not take into account the complete power plant including boiler and ancillary equipment; on the other hand clutch and gearbox were not needed. Even so, the overall weight of a Series E was in excess of 5000 pounds."
Gotta love that
My favourite example of it is the Doble steam car
Straight from wiki - "The 1924 model Doble Series E steam car could run for 1,500 miles (2,400 km) before its 24-gallon water tank needed to be refilled; even in freezing weather, it could be started from cold and move off within 30 seconds, and once fully warmed could be relied upon to reach speeds in excess of 90 miles per hour (140 km/h). In recent years Doble cars have been run at speeds approaching 120 mph (190 km/h), this without the benefits of streamlining, and a lighter version of the Series E accelerated from 0 - 75 mph (121 km/h) in 10 seconds.[citation needed] Its fuel consumption, burning a variety of fuels (often kerosene), was competitive with automobiles of the day, and its ability to run in eerie silence apart from wind noise gave it a distinct edge. At 70 mph (110 km/h), there was little noticeable vibration, with the engine turning at around 900 rpm.
Contemporary Doble advertisements mentioned the lightness of the engine, which would lead customers to compare it favorably with heavier gasoline engines, but "engine" in a steam car usually refers solely to the expander unit, and does not take into account the complete power plant including boiler and ancillary equipment; on the other hand clutch and gearbox were not needed. Even so, the overall weight of a Series E was in excess of 5000 pounds."
Gotta love that
brandongeiger2
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Nah, I'm not gonna build one. I was looking into it ages back but realised it would be too hard to get the power I wanted. Your right devino, CURRENTLY. haha give it ten years or so and it might be different....The one thing I see as important is increasing the efficiency, theres a couple of fuel cell types that only heat up to room temp or so, and the hydrogen production could be made heaps more efficient....It's like steam cars, they had heaps of potential but nobody really went into it trying to make them efficient. Gasoline was just easier and better at the time......Thankfully big companies are getting really into hydrogen power.
My favourite example of it is the Doble steam car
Straight from wiki - "The 1924 model Doble Series E steam car could run for 1,500 miles (2,400 km) before its 24-gallon water tank needed to be refilled; even in freezing weather, it could be started from cold and move off within 30 seconds, and once fully warmed could be relied upon to reach speeds in excess of 90 miles per hour (140 km/h). In recent years Doble cars have been run at speeds approaching 120 mph (190 km/h), this without the benefits of streamlining, and a lighter version of the Series E accelerated from 0 - 75 mph (121 km/h) in 10 seconds.[citation needed] Its fuel consumption, burning a variety of fuels (often kerosene), was competitive with automobiles of the day, and its ability to run in eerie silence apart from wind noise gave it a distinct edge. At 70 mph (110 km/h), there was little noticeable vibration, with the engine turning at around 900 rpm.
Contemporary Doble advertisements mentioned the lightness of the engine, which would lead customers to compare it favorably with heavier gasoline engines, but "engine" in a steam car usually refers solely to the expander unit, and does not take into account the complete power plant including boiler and ancillary equipment; on the other hand clutch and gearbox were not needed. Even so, the overall weight of a Series E was in excess of 5000 pounds."
Gotta love that
Dang that thing goes faster than my jeep and weighs 5000lbs haha
jman231994
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We should have a steam powered section on here 
LOL I wonder if it would be hard to make a steam engine .......WOW I sidetrack easily lol
LOL I wonder if it would be hard to make a steam engine .......WOW I sidetrack easily lol
devino246
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We should have a steam powered section on here
Wouldn't be terribly difficult, but steam engines are extremely dangerous. You'd need to be 100% confident in your engineering and building skills.
brandongeiger2
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How so Devino i know nothing of steam engines??
devino246
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Heat+high pressure=potentially a very bad situation.
Steam engines boil water to produce high pressure steam. If you don't build everything right, you're in bad shape.
brandongeiger2
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rcarteraz07
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Either BOOM everything is gone! Or PSSSTOOONG and you have a high pressure spray of steam melting your skin off!! lol. Not good!
:Angel_anim:
jman231994
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Well actually, that steam car doesn't pressurise steam in a boiler hahaha
Thats why it was so genius, the water was sprayed as a fine mist into a chamber, where another fine mist of fuel was sprayed, the fuel was ignited with some sort of igniter and the heat turned the water into steam instantly. Then it was used for power, the used steam got condensed afterwards and was reused as water.
If someone could make plans for one of those units then we could all copy it
hahaha, also, if something goes wrong the steam production would stop instantly
hahahaThats why it was so genius, the water was sprayed as a fine mist into a chamber, where another fine mist of fuel was sprayed, the fuel was ignited with some sort of igniter and the heat turned the water into steam instantly. Then it was used for power, the used steam got condensed afterwards and was reused as water.
If someone could make plans for one of those units then we could all copy it
hahaha, also, if something goes wrong the steam production would stop instantly
brandongeiger2
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Well to me it seems you two are talking about different engines? haha
jman231994
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Haha what? yea? I'm talking about the steam engine in that doble steam car, devino is just talking about a normal steam engine
brandongeiger2
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ohh okay My auto shop teacher showed me a video of one of Jay Leno's steam cars once they're so cool!
jman231994
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Actually, that was probably the Doble, from memory I saw it in a Jay Leno video too
brandongeiger2
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Pretty nice machine that guy is so lucky to have all those cars
jman231994
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Haha more like hes lucky to have so much everything, the guys just plain lucky haha. I havent seen all of his car collection online, just a few things....But wow, definitely knows the right way to spend his money. Someone needs to save old cars for future generations....Didnt expect one guy to save them all, and new ones....lol legend
brandongeiger2
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Yeah id love to just look at his collection and whats cool is he doesn't just leave them there to sit he drives most of them haha
jman231994
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HAHA, imagine how secure his parking spot would be at cbs or wherever it is he does that show.....lol, I'm australian, I only know letterman and craig ferguson's shows hahahaha
brandongeiger2
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haha i dont watch any of his stuff but im sure its got security all over the place my buddy told me he saw a Lambo in Miami (huge city in south Florida) roped off with two huge security guards protecting it!
jman231994
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Hahaha, I might be from Australia, but I'm not stupid.......either that or CSI Miami has had an impact on me
hahahahahahaWe were driving home from Sydney ( Also a huge city....not in south florida
haha) one time and ended up following a ferrari 458 italia...... Was one awesome car- Status