Wanted Lawn-Boy/Trade 196cc Clone

[Russ2251]

Wanted: Lawn-Boy/Trade 196cc Clone

Will trade 196cc 6.5hp Honda GX-200 clone (Lifan) for Lawn-Boy DuraForce engine.
Clone is brand new and was only run once for QC evaluation and has no issues. I have no need for this engine and has to go.

Lawn-Boy (engine only) can be any year DuraForce model 'E'. Must be a running engine but will consider non running if in good/excellent mechanical condition (unintended oxymoron). Contact me through diygokarts.com.
Rusty

 

[Jerryburger]

Oh,oohh!.... Russ is making his move! I saw a type "g" on ebay last night, but it looked like the 4.5hp model. That's why I didn't bug you with it, plus I've got the feeling that if it's DuraForce, you've seen it before I have! Good luck!

 

[ironman]

http://louisville.craigslist.org/grd/715136154.html russ is this a 2 cycle lawnboy
http://louisville.craigslist.org/grd/672676135.html

 

[Russ2251]

Yup...model 'F' 4.5 hp. First engine I used for kart. I have since acquired 3 others including electric start.

 

[ironman]

cool than im going to go buy it 25 thats not bad for that right russ

 

[Russ2251]

Depends, not all models will work. Model #'s are not posted so I can't cross reference part #'s for usable crankshafts.
BBC and geared auxiliary pto engines won't work.
I never tried to fit electric start (too heavy).
Some electric start models do not have a recoil which comes in handy if starter fails.
I would not purchase these 'oldies' as mechanical condition is unknown. Would be better off cruising neighborhood or scrapyard for freebies. They're out there, you just have to look.

 

[ironman]

well russ i went out and bought all 5 of them for 50 buck 10 dollars each he said they did run but you know how that goes i need help to identifie them here we go.

1st. model is 5024
serial is 7385758
#19

2nd model is 7261
serial # is 6257111
#21

3rd model is 7263
serial# is 6780662
#21

the other two have no tag on them.

 

[Russ2251]

Provide picture of cylinder heads and undersides of unidentified mowers.

 

[ironman]

ok here you go

first one is th ulity one

3 and 4 picture is the heavy duty one.

 

[Russ2251]

5024 is 1977 model 'D 433' engine and there is no easy way (that I know of) of setting up exhaust pipe/muffler. You will see what I mean when disassembled.
Same thing for 7261 (1972) and 7263 (1974). Both of these are 'D 600' engines.
All the above are 3.5 hp.
Unidentified mowers are 'F' engines and can possibly be used. PTO's have to be examined which would require removing engines from mower housing. These are 4.5 hp.

 

[ironman]

you are the man russ. so would say than its a go for these im going to start tomorrow taking all of these motors apart from the decks any thing i need to look out for.are these 5/8 shaft inputs on the first 3

 

[Russ2251]

7/8" shafts on first 3. Unidentified will have to measured, and if usable will be also be 7/8".

 

[ironman]

wow i didn't realize that big thought it would be a 5/8 hum...or even a 3/4

 

[Russ2251]

DuraForce and Briggs 2 cycle are just under 1".

 

[ironman]

so where did you find a clutch at to fit yours its a 7/8 too right
russ check out these old schools on ebay right now. 270245356591

 

[Russ2251]

Most info has been posted here:
http://www.diygokarts.com/vb/showthread.php?t=785

 

[Russ2251]

check out these old schools on ebay right now. 270245356591

Yup...seen them. I check everyday.

 

[ironman]

just looking out for you

 

[ironman]

ok well i figure if im going to be using these motors be a good idea to get the manual on them .so printing up the book on all of them now. thanks for the info russ on another thread i seen where you said to go to to get the manuals.

 

[Russ2251]

on another thread i seen where you said to go to to get the manuals.

Best advice I can give.
Never EVER make assumptions when tearing engines down or re-assembling. Torque all screws/bolts according to specs. When you run across needle bearings be careful not to drop them as they are notorious for getting lost. If you do drop them, don't use a magnet to pick them up. Reasons are obvious.